The Case For Christ 重审基督（2017）
谷歌在线机器翻译于20170811 一帆人工初步校对于20170812
△△我有自己的出版物 △△I'm starting my own paper.△
△△我会告诉你它是如何工作的 △△I'll show you how it works.△
再快点！ Go faster!
Whoo! 喔！
△△我会得到一份工作 △△I'll get a job.△
△△We'll buy a house.△ △△我们买房子
△△Couple of kids.△ △△几个孩子
△△Don't worry. I got it all worked out.△ △△别担心，我得到了这一切
△△Ladies and gentlemen,△ △△女士们，先生们，△
△△请欢迎最新最年轻的△ △△please welcome the newest and youngest△
△△除了论坛队，△ △△addition to the Tribune team,△
△△Lee Strobel △△Lee Strobel.△
It is my distinct pleasure to honor one of our own 我很荣幸地荣幸我们自己
for his nationally acclaimed 为他的全国广受好评
Ford Pinto investigative series. 福特平托调查系列。
△△李，你的工作给了正义△ △△Lee, your work has given justice△
△△to families across the country△ △△给全国各地的家庭△
△△剥离了企业的掩护 △△and peeled back a corporate cover-up.△
So I present you with the Len H. Small Memorial Award 所以我向你呈现Len H.小纪念奖
为社区服务新闻。 for community service journalism.
And congratulations on your promotion 并祝贺您的晋升
△△to Legal Affairs editor!△ △△到法律事务编辑！△
Based on a True Story 根据真实故事
△△谢谢，库克先生，△ △△Thank you, Mr. Cook,△
△△for the award, for the promotion.△ △△为奖励，为晋升
主要是为了促销。 Um... mostly for the promotion.
- Uh... - You're welcome. - 呃... - 欢迎你。
真理的唯一途径就是事实。 The only way to truth is through facts.
事实是我们反对迷信的最大武器， Facts are our greatest weapon against superstition,
against ignorance and against tyranny. 反对无知和暴政。
Now, I learned those words from my mentor, 现在我从导师那里学到了这些话，
- 雷尼尔森先生，大家。 - 谢谢。 - Mr. Ray Nelson, everybody. - Thank you.
我们让他听到吗？ Let's let him hear it, huh?
咦？他的自我需要它。来吧。 Huh? His ego needs it. Bring it on.
That's enough. 足够了。
Now, you all know Ray. 现在，你们都知道雷。
他是事业的传奇。 He's a legend in the business.
但是，对我来说，雷，你更像是一个父亲，所以... But, to me, Ray, you've been more like a father, so...
谢谢。 thank you.
谢谢。谢谢你，儿子。 Thank you. Thank you, son.
最重要的是，我欠这个荣誉 Most importantly, uh, I owe this honor
给我美丽而耐心 to my beautiful and very patient
and very pregnant wife, uh... 和非常怀孕的妻子，呃...
and to my favorite little lady, Alison. 和我最喜欢的小姐，艾莉森。
I love you both more than you'll ever know. 我比你所知道的更爱你。
- 呃... - 是的，亲爱的 - Aw... - Yes, sweetie?
Now can we eat? 现在我们可以吃吗
- "Now can we eat, Daddy?" - Yes! - “现在我们可以吃，爸爸吗？ - 是的
- Yes! - I'll drink to that. - 是的 - 我会喝酒
- 干杯！ - 谢谢。 - Cheers! - Thank you.
- 下一步是什么？ - 我有“意大利面”。 - What's next? - I got "pasta."
哦。好吧。 Ooh. Well, then.
Of course, she finds the biggest word on here, right? 当然，她在这里找到最大的话，对吧？
"Asparagus"? “芦笋”？
Wow, that is a big word. 哇，那是个大字。
不是一个失去了牙齿的女孩。 Not for a girl who's lost a tooth.
- Oh, okay. - Oh, big girl. - 哦好的。 - 哦，大女孩
我还印象深刻 I'm still impressed.
A big girl who didn't eat her dinner. 一个没有吃晚餐的大女孩
- I'm full. - You're full? - 我吃饱了。 - 你饱了？
- Is that right? - Yeah. - 是对的吗？ - 是啊
Are you gonna tell me 你会告诉我吗
you're hungry when we get home? 我们回家的时候你饿了吗？
好吧，我会给你甜点 All right, I'm gonna give you dessert
如果你再吃一个面条 if you eat one more noodle.
- That was easy. - See? - 那很简单。 - 见
只需要贿赂她一点。 Just have to bribe her a little bit.
- 咀嚼嗯，嗯。 - Chew it up. - Mm-hmm.
我们完成了？ We done?
- Show me done. -There's still spaghetti in there. - 告诉我完成 - 那里还有意大利面。
Swallow that. 吞下那个。
Take this. Go. 拿着它。走。
好工作 Good work.
You know, I'm feeling pretty good about myself. 你知道，我对自己感觉很好。
- Yeah? - Mm-hmm. - 是啊嗯，嗯。
那个怎么样？ How is that?
我嫁给了一位出版作家。 I am married to a published author.
That's very impressive. 这是非常令人印象深刻
嗯，嗯。不是吗？嗯，嗯。 - Mm-hmm. Isn't it? - Mm-hmm.
I'm proud of you. 我为你感到骄傲。
- 谢谢。嗯，嗯。 - Thank you. - Mm-hmm.
- I love you. - I love you. - 我爱你。 - 我爱你。
You and only you. 你只有你
Mm-hmm? - Sweetie? MM-嗯？ - 甜心？
Ali, what is it, baby? 阿里，是什么，宝贝？
- 你窒息吗 - 我觉得她在窒息。 - Are you choking? - I think she's choking.
- Ali, come on, cough. - Hey, sweetie, - 阿里，来，咳嗽。嘿，亲爱的，
just breathe for Mommy, okay? 只是呼吸妈妈，好吗？
- 阿里？请，李。 - 每个人，请给她... - Ali? Please, Lee. -Everybody, please, just give her...
- give her some space. - Lee, do something, Lee. 给她一些空间。李，做点什么，李。
- Ali, I'm right here. Okay, -Come on, honey, come on. - 阿里，我在这里。好吧，来吧，亲爱的，来吧。
- Baby, it's gonna be okay. - Can somebody help us, please?! - 宝贝，会好起来的 - 有人可以帮我们吗？
Call an ambulance! 叫救护车！
- It's okay, baby. I'm right here. - Look at Daddy, okay? - 没关系，宝贝。我在这里 - 看爸爸，好吗？
Okay, breathe for me. You're gonna be all right. 好的，呼吸我你会没事的。
宝贝，我就在这里。我不知道... Baby, I'm right here. I don't know...
我不知道什么...我不知道该怎么办 I don't know what... I don't know what to...
- 我爱你亲爱的。只是... - 她无法呼吸！ - I love you, sweetheart. Just... - She can't breathe!
- Hand her to me. Quick, quick. I'm a nurse. -Ali, please! - 把她交给我快速，快速我是一名护士。 - 请，请！
- 快速，快速，快速，快速，快速。 - 好的，只要保持冷静 - Quick, quick, quick, quick, quick. - Okay, just stay calm.
来吧。来吧，阿里，咳嗽我 Come on. Come on, Ali, cough for me.
- 咳嗽，亲爱的 - 她不能呼吸，李！ - Cough, honey. - She can't breathe, Lee!
She can't... 她不能...
Sweetie. 亲爱的。
- 咳嗽，宝宝。咳嗽，宝贝 - 甜心？好的... - Cough, baby. Cough, baby. - Sweetie? Okay...
好的... Okay...
- 只是呼吸，好吗？ - 她在咳嗽 - Just breathe, okay? - She's coughing.
- She's fine now. She's fine. - Okay? - 她现在很好她很好。 - 好的？
- 好吧，只是呼吸。 - 非常感谢。 - Okay, just breathe. - Thank you so much.
谢谢谢谢。 Thank you, thank you.
- 我不知道怎么感谢你。 - 来吧，宝贝。过来。 - I don't know how to thank you. - Come here, baby. Come here.
- 非常感谢。 - 你不必感谢我。 - Thank you so much. - You don't have to thank me.
我是仁慈医院的护士。 I'm a nurse at Mercy Hospital.
她现在好了 She's gonna be fine now.
我们很幸运 We're so lucky.
Well, it's not luck. 那么这不是运气。
△△是耶稣 △△It's Jesus.△
我和我的丈夫在路上 My husband and I were on our way
to another restaurant tonight. 到今天晚上的另一家餐厅。
Something told me I needed to be here. 有事告诉我，我需要在这里。
哇。谢谢。 Wow. Thank you.
Um, Leslie. 嗯，莱斯利。
阿尔菲。阿尔维·戴维斯 Alfie. Alfie Davis.
我不会忘记你 I'm not gonna forget you.
上帝祝福你。 God bless you.
只是保持有趣，嗯？ Just keeping it interesting, huh?
You keep drinking that. 你继续喝酒
△△我还可以吃糖果，对吧？ △△I can still have candy, though, right?△
△△我们必须看看。 △△We'll△ have to see about that.
△△You get some sleep now,△ △△现在你睡一觉，△
好吧，missy？ all right, missy?
- Mom? - Hmm? 妈妈？ - 嗯？
Who's Jesus? 谁是耶稣？
Jesus was a man... great man... 耶稣是个男人...伟人
而且...你知道，我们已经谈过上帝了吗？ And... you know, we've talked about God, right?
亲爱的，你知道妈妈和爸爸 Honey, you know how Mommy and Daddy
晚上读你的故事... read you stories at night...
你知道，你喜欢的童话故事吗？ You know, the fairy tales that you like?
所以，相信上帝 So, believing in God
is kind of like that... It's really nice stories. 是这样的...这是真的很好的故事。
But we are atheists. 但我们是无神论者。
Atheists don't believe in God. 无神论者不信神。
What do they believe? 他们相信什么？
Uh, they believe in what's real, 呃他们相信什么是真实的，
在我们可以看到的，我们可以触摸。 in what we can see, what we can touch.
Like What? 像什么？
Oh... like this. 哦，就这样
Well, I guess I'm an atheist, too. 嗯，我想我也是一个无神论者。
睡觉，bo er，好吗？ Get some sleep, booger, okay?
Here's Beary. 这是贝利。
There you go. 你去了
福ge流行 Fudge Pop.
好吧，睡好了我爱你。 All right, sleep good. I love you.
爸爸？ Daddy?
- 是的亲爱的？ - 晚安。 - Yes, love? - Good night.
晚安宝贝。 Good night, baby.
△△我以为我们说我们不是△ △△I thought we said we weren't△
△△gonna force anything on her.△ △△会强迫她上的任何东西
她问。 She asked.
对，所以只要是我们所相信的。 Right, so as long as it's what we believe.
啊。是的，我们真的要再来一次吗，莱斯？ Ugh. Are-are we really gonna go around on this again, Les?
I guess so. 我猜是这样。
宝贝，我... Babe, I...
我很感谢今晚那个女人做了什么 I am grateful for what that woman did tonight...
Obviously... 明显...
But it was... it's a coincidence. 但这是巧合。
It didn't mean anything. 这并不意味着什么。
你怎么能这么说？ How can you say that?
She was going to another restaurant, 她要去另一家餐厅，
and something made her come to ours. 有些事使她来到我们这里。
你觉得没什么意思？ You think that means nothing?
I know it means nothing. 我知道这没有意义。
Can I tell you what it means? 我可以告诉你这是什么意思吗？
这意味着我们会失去艾莉森。 It means that we would've lost Alison.
If that woman hadn't been there, we would've lost her. 如果那个女人不在，我们就会失去她。
Our whole world would've changed forever. 我们的整个世界将永远改变。
我...是的，但没有。 I... Yes, but it didn't.
好的？ Okay?
We're all okay. 我们都没事
Everyone's okay. 大家都没事
你去了我得到了哇。 There you go. I got ya. Whoa.
嘿，酋长。 Hey, chief.
我可以用我的红铅笔编辑三件 I could've edited three pieces with my red pencil
in the time it takes me to do one piece 当时我需要做一件事
on this ridiculous thing. 对这个可笑的事情
My new book. 我的新书
Just picked these up from the mailroom. 刚从邮件室拿起这些。
Wanted you to be the first to see it. 希望你成为第一个看到它。
Hmm. 嗯。
Hey, there was a cop shooting this weekend. 嘿，这个周末有一个警察射击。
Englewood. Officer survived. 恩格尔伍德。军官幸存下来
See what you can get me on the shooter, James Hicks. 看看你可以让我在射手詹姆斯·希克斯。
No, that's cop beat. I'm Legal Affairs now. 不，那是警察的打击。我现在是法律事务
Why don't you give that to Monroe? 你为什么不给门罗？
Now, you may be 现在，你可能是
a golden boy to the suits upstairs, 一个金色的男孩到楼上的西装，
但是对我来说，你们还是只是一个记者。 but to me you're still just a beat reporter here.
Thank you. 谢谢。
呃，不要关闭... Uh, don't close the...
London. Hey. 伦敦。嘿。
Want an autographed copy of my new book? 想要我的新书的亲笔签名副本？
- 没有一点 - 哦哦 - Not one bit. - Ooh.
Jealousy doesn't look good on you, my friend. 嫉妒对你不好，我的朋友。
Then again, nothing does. 那么再也没有。
Overnight legal briefs from AP, Mr. Strobel. 来自AP，Strobel先生的过夜法律简报。
谢谢Rod。嘿。 Thanks, Rod. Hey.
Want you to go through yesterday's local rags. 希望你能穿过昨天的地毯。
See if anyone reported on a cop shooting. 看看有没有人报过警察拍摄。
佩普的名字是希克斯（James Hicks）。 Perp's name is Hicks... James Hicks.
希克斯。詹姆斯·希克斯当然。 Hicks. James Hicks. Sure.
- Okay. - You got 30 minutes. - 好的。 - 你有30分钟。
如果你仍然提供，我会拿一本书。 I'll take a book if you're still offering.
嘿，伦敦。 Hey, London.
听说？我的第一个接收者 Hear that? Got my first taker.
他不知道更好。 He doesn't know any better.
Bet you're gonna go far in this business, kid. 打赌你会走这么远的事，小孩。
Even if you are sucking up. 即使你正在吸吮。
29 minutes, Rod. 29分钟，Rod。
△△Room 241, bed two, going home today.△ △△241室，床两张，今天回家
Want to prep for discharge, please? 想要准备出院吗？
Leslie? 莱斯利？
是。你好。 Yes. Hi.
Alfie. Yes. 阿尔菲。是。
嗯...松饼 Um... muffins.
I have not... been able to stop thinking about it. 我没有...能够停止思考。
What if you hadn't been there? 如果你还没去过怎么办？
与上帝没有“如果” There is no "what if" with God.
You're so sure. 你很确定
你怎么能这么肯定？ How can you be so sure?
你真的想要一个答案吗？ Do you really want an answer to that?
请。 Please.
- Alfie. So sorry. - Ah! - 阿尔菲非常抱歉。 - 啊！
对不起。保姆。 I'm sorry. The babysitter.
- I'm-I'm sorry. - Oh, it's fine. - 我很抱歉 - 哦，没关系
- 好的。好的。 - 来吧。进来。 - Okay. Okay. - Come on. Come on in.
♪ O soul, are you weary ♪ ♪哦，灵魂，你疲倦了♪
♪困扰？ ♪ ♪ And troubled? ♪
♪ No light in the darkness ♪ ♪黑暗中没有光♪
♪你看到♪ ♪ You see? ♪
♪ There's light for a look at the Savior... ♪ ♪看到救主的光♪
Sometimes God speaks to us in unexpected 有时神会以意想不到的方式与我们说话
and surprising ways. 和令人惊讶的方式。
所以今晚，例如， So tonight, for example,
如果你第一次发现自己在这里， if you find yourself here for the first time,
我只是想鼓励你打开你的心 I just want to encourage you to open your heart
and take a chance. 并抓住机会。
Maybe God's trying to get your attention right now. 也许上帝试图让你的注意力。
而且，相信我，如果你听的话 And, trust me, if you listen expectantly
因为他的耳语，你会听到他们的声音。 for His whispers, you'll hear them.
你会。 You Will.
也许你害怕 Maybe you're afraid.
也许你有疑问。 Maybe you have doubts.
Maybe you've felt something missing in your life 也许你在你的生活中感觉到一些东西丢失了
and you don't know quite what it is. 你不知道它是什么。
没事儿。 That's fine.
上帝是有耐心的 God is patient.
And when you're ready, I promise you, 当你准备好了，我答应你，
He'll be right there waiting for you with open arms. 他会在那里等着你张开双臂。
- 嘿 - 你好 - Hey. - Hi.
Sorry I missed dinner. 对不起我错过了晚餐
New boss piling on the work. 新老板打桩上班。
I think he's punishing me for the award. 我认为他正在惩罚我的奖励。
How was your day? 你今天过得怎么样？
好。 Good.
这很好。 It was good.
科布林斯基官员 Officer Koblinsky.
- 你是谁？ - Lee Strobel。 - Who are you? - Lee Strobel.
△△△△△△为芝加哥论坛报。△ △△I'm△ with △△the Chicago Tribune.△
打电话，呵呵？ Close call, huh?
So, I'm looking to do a story on the shooting. 所以，我正在寻找一个关于拍摄的故事。
You know, hero cop, 你知道，英雄警察，
受伤在线上，整个角度。 injured in the line of duty, that whole angle.
I'm not supposed to talk to anybody from the press. 我不应该跟新闻界的任何人说话。
I know, but you've gotta be able to give me something. 我知道，但你必须能够给我一些东西。
You know the deal. Not while it's under investigation. 你知道这笔交易。不是在调查中。
看，我读了你的报告。 Look, I read your report.
我知道你，詹姆斯·希克斯打了个混蛋， I know you and James Hicks got in a scuffle,
I know he shot you, but come on. 我知道他打了你，但是来了。
给我一些记录的东西？ Give me a little something off the record?
Why do you think he did it, huh? 你为什么认为他是这样做的？
看，谢谢反正还好吗 Look, thanks anyway, okay?
啊... Ah...
All right. 好吧。
I will go find another hero cop to interview. 我会去找另一位英雄警察来面试。
Mr. Strobel, do you want a story? 史特劳贝尔先生，你想要一个故事吗？
是啊。 Yeah.
Do one on the gangbanger who did this. 在做这个的歹徒上做一个。
把他放走好 Put him away for good.
Feel better, huh? 感觉好点了吗？
△△We find the answer right here△ △△我们在这里找到答案△
in the Book of John, chapter one, verse 12, 在约翰福音书中，第一章，第十二节，
“凡接待他的， "But as many as received Him,
“他就赐他们权柄，作 神的儿女， "to them He gave the right to become children of God,
to those who believe in His name." 就是信他名的人“。
So, what does it mean to not just believe but receive? 那么，不仅仅是相信而是得到什么意思呢？
△△如何引导我们...△ △△And how does it lead us...△
So, did you ever go to church? 那么，你去过教堂了吗
是的，我作为一个女孩去教堂。 Yeah, I went to church as a girl.
MM-嗯。 Mm-hmm.
我妈妈唱赞美诗给我。 And my mom sung hymns to me.
But Lee and I moved on from how we were raised. 但是李和我从提高我身上转移了下来。
那呃，李再次相信呢？ And, uh, what is it that Lee believes in again?
Just the facts. 只是事实。
好的。 Okay.
我一直很好奇， I've always been kind of curious,
but, uh, lately, you know, 但是，呃，最近你知道，
having Alison and now... 有艾莉森和现在...
只是开始看起来更重要的是要知道。 It's just starting to seem more important to know.
我不认为这是巧合 And I don't believe that it was a coincidence
你来到餐厅...我不...所以... that you came to the restaurant... I don't... so...
What do I do with that? 我该怎么办？
What do you think you should do with it? 你认为应该怎么做？
I don't know. I've just... 我不知道。我刚刚...
I've just spent most of my life 我刚刚度过了大部分时间
feeling like God is a million miles away. 感觉像上帝是一百万英里远。
哦，不，亲爱的 Oh, no, sweetheart.
上帝不是万里之遥。 God is not a million miles away.
He's right here... 他在这里
right now, 马上，
waiting for you to talk to Him. 等待你跟他说话
△△电视机的全部状态 △△The TV's all staticky again.△
△△Tried banging on it. That's not working anymore.△ △△尝试了它。那不再工作了
你检查了屋顶吗？ Did you check the roof?
Yeah. The, uh, antenna's fine. 是啊。呃，天啊好。
Maybe you should call the repair guy, 也许你应该叫修理家伙，
see if he can come by and take a peek at it tomorrow. 看看他是否可以来明天去看望。
当然。 Sure.
嘿，所以我上周去了Alfie。 Hey, so I went to see Alfie last week.
呃... Uh...
- Alfie, Alfie, Alfie... - Alfie, Alfie. - Alfie，Alfie，Alfie... - Alfie，Alfie。
Superwoman who saved our daughter? 救我们女儿的女超人？
- Right. - Alfie. - 对。 - 阿尔菲
所以，呃，她邀请我到她的教堂， So, uh, she invited me to her church,
我去了 and I went.
真？ Really?
哦，我会喜欢看到的。 Oh, I would've loved to have seen that.
Yeah, well, I wanted to go. 嗯，我想去。
Can't we just give it a break, Les? Okay? 我们不能让它休息一下，莱斯？好的？
我知道你晚上被吵了起来 I know you were rattled the other night.
Are you interested in hearing me or just condescending? 你有兴趣听我说话还是屈服于你？
No, that's not... that's not what I'm trying to do here. 不，这不是...这不是我在这里做的。
好的？艾莉森很好， Okay? Alison's fine, hon.
Let's not go crazy. 我们不要疯了
我不是疯了我是疯了吗 I'm not acting crazy. Am I acting crazy?
It was the wrong choice of words. 这是错误的选词。
我不觉得你很疯狂 I don't think you're crazy.
I think you're pregnant. 我想你怀孕了
还有一点疯狂。 And a little crazy.
And scared, and... I get it. 害怕，我得到它。
你做？因为我还没有完成 Do you? Because I'm not done yet.
好的。 Okay.
所以，我去教堂。 So, I went to church.
And I don't know exactly how it happened, but... 而且我不知道它是怎么发生的，但是...
我感觉到一些东西 I felt something.
And so I went again tonight. 所以我今晚再次去了。
And I know this is gonna be weird to hear, 我知道这听起来很奇怪，
因为很奇怪，但是... because it's weird to say, but...
△△I△祈祷。 △△I△ prayed.
So, what are you... what are you telling me, Les? 所以，你是什么...你告诉我什么，Les？
I'm saying that... 我在说...
我跟耶稣说话 I talked to Jesus.
我告诉过我，我希望他在我的生活中。 I... I told Him I want Him in my life.
你什么？ You what?
为什么？ Why?
- 你为什么会...？嘿，留在我身边 - Why would you...? - Hey, stay with me.
Hon, this is a good thing. 嗯，这是件好事。
What did this Alfie woman say to you? 这个阿尔菲女人对你说什么？
这是我的决定。 It was my decision.
- Okay? - I don't accept it. - 好的？ - 我不接受
你不会接受它。我不是问 You don't get to accept it. I'm not asking.
I'm telling you what happened. 我告诉你发生了什么事
You're not hearing me. 你不听我说
Okay. Listen, hon. 好的。听，嗯
It's me. 是我。
这是我跟你说话是我。 This is me talking to you. It's me.
老实说，这是事情 Honestly, this is something
that I think I've been thinking for a long time 我想我一直在想很久
and I just haven't been able to... 我只是没有能够...
说什么，因为你是谁。 to say anything because of who you are.
Oh, are you kidding me, Les? 哦，你在开玩笑吗，莱斯？
- I know this is a lot, hon. - A lot? - 我知道这很多，嗯。 - 很多？
很多？你把它放在我身上 A lot? You drop this on me.
那有什么意思？ What does that even mean?
我不知道这是什么意思， I don't know what it means,
但我知道这对我来说是件好事。 but I know it's a good thing for me.
- 为了我们。是。不，不行 - For us. Yes. - No. No. Okay.
- 是的 - 好的，这不是我们，莱斯。 - Yes. - Okay, this is not us, Les.
无论这是什么，好的，这不是我们的。 Whatever this is, okay, it is not us.
You are on your own... 你只能靠自己...
Can you listen to me and not get mad? 你能听我说，不要生气吗？
I am listening to you, and that's the problem, 我在听你的话，那就是问题，
so if you're serious about this... 所以如果你是认真的这个...
- 我是好的，那我呢 - And I am. - Okay, well, then I...
那么我不知道该怎么说 then I don't know what to say to you
- about whatever this is. - Don't say anything, then. - 关于这是什么。 - 不要说什么了。
Just listen to what I'm trying to say, 只要听我想说的话，
because I'm trying to explain that I felt something 因为我想解释一下我感觉到什么
这可能比任何事情更真实 that is maybe more real than anything
我曾经感受过我的生活。 I've ever felt in my life.
More real than anything you've felt in your life. 比你在生活中感受到的任何事物更真实。
- 好的，我不想比较。 - 得到它了。得到它了。 - Okay, I'm not trying to compare. - Got it. Got it.
- I'm... - No. You know what? - 我是... - 不，你知道吗
I don't want to hear any more of this. 我不想再听到这个了。
- Come on. Hon... - Okay? - 来吧。嗯...好吗？
你要去哪里？ Where are you going?
提交失踪人员报告。 To file a missing persons report.
- That's not funny. - Not meant to be. - 这不好笑 - 不是。
Thank you. 谢谢。
I love you, Lee Strobel. 我爱你，李斯特劳。
△△You and only you.△ △△你只有你
△△I feel like I can get through to her before△ △△我觉得我可以在之前通过她
她陷得太深了，但我记得， she gets too deep, but I remember,
you went through something like this, 你经历了这样的事情，
呃，和你的女儿一起...Lori，是吧？ uh, with your daughter... With Lori, right?
Yes, yes, I did. 是的，是的，我做过。
It's a conundrum. 这是一个难题
你看，在危机时期， You see, in times of crisis,
我们人类倾向于寻求意义，不是吗？ we humans tend to seek meaning, don't we?
You've read Bertrand Russell, of course. 当然，你已经读过伯特兰·罗素了。
嗯，当然咯。 Yeah, of course.
I mean, not since college, but... 我的意思是，不是大学毕业，而是...
莱斯利现在没有办法看到。 There's no way that Leslie would read that right now.
是的，我的女儿也不会， Yeah, my daughter wouldn't, either,
但我一直在妄想 but I kept picking away at the delusion
直到她终于来到了。 until she finally came around.
但我必须告诉你，李， But I gotta tell you, Lee,
不会没有代价。 doesn't come without a price.
How do you mean? 你是什么意思？
不管怎样，对于Leslie， Whatever this is for Leslie,
maybe it's not such a terrible thing. 也许这不是一件可怕的事情。
我的意思是，如果它带来了她的舒适， I mean, if it brings her comfort,
are you sure it's not something you can live with? 你确定这不是你可以生活的东西吗？
Yes, I'm sure. I'm not gonna lose 是的，我敢肯定。我不会输
my wife and my kids to some thing 我的妻子和我的孩子有些事情
我甚至不能理解。没有。 that I can't even reason with. No.
我甚至不能假装跟这个，雷。 I can't even pretend to go along with this, Ray.
我的意思是，你们所有人都应该明白。 I mean, you of all people should understand that.
I do. 我做。
我知道莱斯利是一个合理的女人， And I know that Leslie is a reasonable woman,
so I think that reason is probably the best approach. 所以我觉得这个理由可能是最好的办法。
和往常一样，归结于事实和真理。 And, as always, it comes down to facts and truth.
现在，你向她呈现事实， Now, you present her with the facts,
我相信她会回到真相。 and I'm sure she will find her way back to the truth.
Meanwhile, my collection is at your disposal. 同时，我的收藏就在你的位置。
慢慢来。 Take your time.
Appreciate it, Ray. 欣赏，雷。
Oh, Lee, one more thing. 哦，李，还有一件事。
I'll be praying for you. 我会为你祷告
That's not even funny. 那甚至不好笑
△△Kenny, let me ask you something.△ △△肯尼，让我问你一些
Uh, you're into all this God nonsense. 呃，你这一切都是废话。
Wow, you sure know how to charm a source. 哇，你确定知道如何魅惑一个来源。
所以，一大堆圣经骗子拿到了莱斯利。 So, a bunch of Bible thumpers got to Leslie.
嗯... Um...
我恐怕她加入了你的邪教。 I'm afraid she joined your cult.
So, if somebody... somebody wanted to do 所以，如果有人有人想做
an investigation into Christianity... 对基督教的调查...
Oh, like a hit piece. 哦，就像打碎的一块。
Well, uh... 呃...
you know, if that's where the evidence leads. 你知道，如果这是证据所在的地方。
Seems to me you got yourself a catch-22. 好像对我来说你有一个抓到22。
那是什么？ What's that?
Let's say you debunk Christianity. 假设你揭破了基督教。
How's Leslie gonna live with the man who destroyed 莱斯利怎么会和那个毁灭的人一起生活
现在赋予她生命意义的东西？ the very thing that now gives her life meaning?
I... Because I should be the thing 我...因为我应该是这
这给她的生命意义。 that gives her life meaning.
那么如果莱斯利的权利呢 And then what if Leslie's right
and you prove your theory of science and reason wrong? 你证明你的科学理论是错误的？
How are you gonna live with yourself? 你怎么会和自己一起生活？
I'm willing to take that chance. 我愿意承担这个机会。
Okay. You're a journalist. 好的。你是一个记者。
一探究竟。 Check it out.
你从哪里开始？ Where would you start?
除非你想做两年的神学院， Unless you want to do two years of seminary,
我会说直接为击中要害的。 I'd say go straight for the jugular.
The entire Christian faith 整个基督教信仰
取决于耶稣的复活。 hinges on the resurrection of Jesus.
If it didn't happen, it's a house of cards. 如果没有发生，那就是一不牢靠的纸牌屋。
He's reduced to a misunderstood rabbi at best. 他最多只能被误解为一个误解的拉比。
在最坏的情况下，他是一个被殉难的疯子。 At worst, he's a lunatic who was martyred.
For a guy who thinks I'm trying to assassinate Christianity, 对于一个认为我试图暗杀基督教的人，
你确定要给我那把枪吗？ you sure you want to hand me that gun?
我很确定你不会能够 I'm pretty sure you're not gonna be able
- to pull the trigger. - All right. - 拉动扳机。 - 好吧。
Who's the big authority on the Resurrection? 谁是复活的大权威人物？
Dr. Gary Habermas. 哈贝马斯博士
他辩论了安东尼飞。 He debated Antony Flew.
That guy's one of my heroes. 那个家伙是我的一个英雄。
他在威斯康星州，顺便说一句。 He's in Wisconsin, by the way.
Big debate this weekend. 这个周末的大辩论。
- Wisconsin? - Mm-hmm. - 威斯康星州嗯，嗯。
Who would go to Wisconsin? 谁会去威斯康辛州？
Spike in gang violence, 匪帮暴力，
especially in the communities of Wrigleyville, 特别是在Wrigleyville的社区，
Lincoln Park, and Englewood, as evidenced... 林肯公园和恩格伍德，证明...
Dr. Habermas, if Christians want to hold on 哈贝马斯博士，如果基督徒想要坚持下去
他们相信一个巨大的宇宙想像的朋友... to their belief in a giant cosmic imaginary friend...
这一切都很好， that's all well and good,
但不要试图忍受你的历史技术 but don't try to stand your historical technique
反对海啸的合法奖学金。 up against a tsunami of legitimate scholarship.
你会淹死 You will drown.
那么，谢谢你的警告，辛格博士， Well, thank you for the warning, Dr. Singer,
but are you not aware that Gerd Ludemann, 但你不知道Gerd Ludemann，
最着名的无神论者之一 one of the most famous atheist
新约学者现在相信 New Testament scholars, now believes
that the earliest known report of the Resurrection 最早知道的复活报告
was formed no more than three years after the Cross? 在十字架后不到三年？
Now, these are your colleagues, sir, not mine. 现在，这些是你的同行，先生，不是我的。
△△Something you'd like to ask me, Mr. Strobel?△ △△你想问我什么，史特劳尔先生？△
是啊，好吧，我...我读了你的书， Yeah, well, I-l... so I read your book,
and there's something that stuck out to me. 有一些东西突然发生在我身上。
任何人都可以谈论 How can anyone talk about
historical evidence for the Resurrection 复活的历史证据
当复活本质上是一个奇迹吗？ when the Resurrection, by nature, is a miracle?
Right? We all know miracles can't be proven scientifically. 对？我们都知道奇迹无法科学证明。
Correct, but we don't have to prove a miracle 正确，但我们不必证明奇迹
to prove a resurrection. 证明复活。
好的。希望你解释一下。 Okay. Love to hear you explain that one.
不，你只需要表明耶稣死了 No, you just have to show that Jesus died
他后来被看见。 and he was seen afterwards.
Right, but the very people who claim 对，但是许多人声称
他们看到他是宗教狂热分子。 that they saw him are religious zealots.
所以，在我的工作中，我们称之为“有偏见的来源”。 So, in my line of work, we call those "biased sources."
Well, I'm not interested in bias either, Mr. Strobel. 那么，我也不会对偏见感兴趣，斯特罗贝尔先生。
You see, I care about the facts 你看，我在乎事实
for professional and-and personal reasons. 出于专业和个人原因。
对，哈贝马斯博士呢，事实如何？ Right, so where are the facts, Dr. Habermas?
复活叙事比历史更为传奇。 The Resurrection narrative is more legend than it is history.
真的？那么不是根据历史记录。 Really? Well, not according to historical records.
你知道我们有一个复活的报告 Did you know that we have a report of the Resurrection
with specific eyewitnesses that dates all the way back 有具体的目击者可以追溯到最后
within months of the Resurrection itself? 在复活本身的几个月内？
该来源还补充了500个独立的人 That source also adds that 500 separate people
同时看到耶稣。 saw Jesus at the same time.
我们不是说几十年还是几个世纪 We're not talking decades or centuries
after the Cross, Mr. Strobel. 十字架后，史特劳贝尔先生。
这是几个月。 It's months.
嘿，你喝咖啡吗？ Hey, you a coffee drinker?
呃好的 Uh, sure.
I should be able to reach the faucet. 我应该能够到达水龙头。
When am I gonna be taller? 我什么时候要高一些？
在你知道之前 Before you know it.
- Ooh. - What's wrong, Mommy? - 哦哦，妈妈怎么了？
没什么不对的 Nothing's wrong.
只是一个小小的问候。 It's just the little one saying hello.
△△Okay, so 500 witnesses,△ △△好，所以有500名证人，△
but that's still just one historical source: the Bible. 但这只是一个历史来源：圣经。
错。至少有九个古代来源 Wrong. There are at least nine ancient sources
both inside and outside the Bible 圣经内外都有
确认门徒和其他人 confirming that disciples and others
被钉十字架后遇到耶稣。 encountered Jesus after the Crucifixion.
But-but they were already followers of Jesus. 但是，但他们已经是耶稣的追随者了。
嗯，不是全部。 Well, not all of them.
Think of Saul of Tarsus. 想想鞑靼人的扫罗。
He originally was a persecutor of Christians. 他原来是基督徒的迫害者。
He hunted them down and killed them. 他抓捕他们，杀死他们。
Yet he died the Apostle Paul, 然而他死了使徒保罗，
proclaiming that Jesus was the Son of God. 宣称耶稣是神的儿子。
But-but let's not kid ourselves here. 但是，但我们不要在这儿像小孩子。
People die for lies all the time. 人们一直在为谎言而死。
琼斯镇有900人死于饮酒毒饵。 900 people died drinking poison Kool-Aid at Jonestown.
True, and there are other examples like that 真的，还有其他的例子
throughout history, but here's the difference. 在整个历史上，但这里有所区别。
People don't willingly drink poison 人们不愿意喝毒药
因为他们知道的是谎言。 for something that they know is a lie.
Fair point. 有道理。
If the early Church martyrs 如果早期教会的烈士
knew that the Resurrection was a hoax, 知道复活是一个骗局，
then why would they willingly die for it? 那么为什么他们会为之而死呢？
- Would you? - Um, I want to go back - 你会么？ - 嗯，我想收回去
对你刚才说的话。 to something that you said earlier.
你说，呃这是对你个人的。 You said that, uh... that this was personal to you.
Why is that? 这是为什么？
我失去了我的妻子黛比因为癌症。 I lost my wife Debbie to cancer.
我很抱歉 I'm sorry about that.
It was the worst thing that will ever happen to me. 这是对我来说最糟糕的事情。
But in my time of loss, it... 但在我失去的时候，它...
it made me confront my beliefs. 它让我面对我的信仰。
That is where I found my true comfort. 那就是我真正的安慰。
因为我知道有一天我会再见到我的妻子。 Because I know that I am gonna see my wife again someday.
和...原谅我，但作为一个男人谁... And... forgive me, but as a man who...
谁声称重视证据， who claims to value hard evidence,
don't you find that that sort of, um, 你不觉得那样，嗯，
hopeful thinking weakens your argument? 有希望的想法削弱了你的观点？
没有一点 Not one bit.
The fact that I benefit from gravity 我受益于重力的事实
isn't proof that it's real, 不是证明它是真实的，
just as my dislike for mosquitoes 就像我不喜欢蚊子一样
isn't an argument against their existence. 不是反对他们的存在的论据。
你看，我是什么，我想要什么，我不想要什么 You see, what I... what I want and what I don't want
对真理没有影响。 has no impact on truth.
That being said, if Christ's resurrection means 话虽如此，如果基督的复活意味着
that I get to be with Debbie again, 我再次和黛比一起去，
我没有什么问题对此感到高兴。 I have no problem being happy about that.
Sometimes truth reminds us of what's really important. 有时真相让我们想起了真正重要的事情。
Oh, Lee, Lee. Lee. 哦，李，李。李。
Alfie. Remember me? 阿尔菲。记住我？
嗯，当然咯。发生了什么？ Yeah, of course. What happened?
Okay, well, her water broke. 好的，她的羊水破了。
她无法联系到你，所以她打电话给我， She couldn't reach you, so she called me,
然后，我开车送她到这里。 and... well, I drove her here.
再次感谢你 Again... thank you.
△△- I'll take it from here. - Okay. △△ - 我会从这里取。 - 好的。
- Hey, Les. - Lee. - 嘿，莱斯。 - 李。
- 爸爸 - 嘿，花生 - Daddy. - Hey, peanut.
你是妈妈的大帮手吗？ You a big helper for Mama?
Lee, where were you? 李，你在哪里？
- I was working, hon. -Hon, I paged you and I paged you - 我在工作，呃 - 我寻呼你，我寻呼你
- 我寻呼你，我... - 我知道，我知道。好的？ - and I paged you and I... - I know, I know. Okay?
Yeah. 是啊。
- 你还好吗嗯，嗯。 - You okay? - Mm-hmm.
他是美丽的。 He's beautiful.
他们正在清理他。 They're cleaning him up.
我们在家， We were at home,
and I started cramping, and... 我开始痉挛，...
阿里吓了一跳，是吧？ Ali was scared. Right?
And we prayed, and everything got better. 我们祈祷，一切都变好了。
好。我很高兴。 Good. I'm glad.
- 哦，哦，嗨，亲爱的 - Oh... - Oh, hi, sweetie.
Hey, come here, honey. 嘿，来这里，亲爱的
啊，你好。 Oh, hi.
Oh, he's got healthy lungs. 哦，他有健康的肺。
认识你的儿子凯尔·克里斯托弗。 Meet your son, Kyle Christopher.
- Hey. - Hi. - 嘿 - 你好
嘿。 Hey.
欢迎来到世界，伙计。 Welcome to the world, buddy.
You should call your parents, don't you think? 你应该打电话给你的父母，你不觉得吗？
人们可以改变，你知道吗 People can change, you know?
那么，这个公告登报。 Well, the announcement's in the paper.
They can read it just like everybody else. 他们可以像其他人一样阅读它。
Good gracious. 好亲切。
500 Eyewitnesses Saw Jesus after Crocifixion. 500目击者看见耶稣，在钉十架后。
Are the manuscripts reliable? 这手稿可靠吗？
Mr. Marlow. 马洛先生
Lee Strobel，芝加哥论坛报。 Lee Strobel, Chicago Tribune.
你必须原谅我 You'll have to excuse me.
先生，你一直在躲避我的电话 Sir, you've been dodging my calls
about James Hicks for over a week. 关于詹姆斯·希克斯超过一个星期。
I tried talking to PD. 我试着和PD谈话
They won't tell me anything, either, 他们也不会告诉我什么，
Why can't I get a statement from anyone? 为什么我不能得到任何人的声明？
什么大秘密？ What's the big secret?
拿着。 Hold this.
告诉你什么...你为什么不来监狱 Tell you what... Why don't you come to the jail
自己和我的客户交谈？ and talk to my client yourself?
Maybe you can get him to say more to you 也许你可以让他更多地对你说话
than he'll say to me. 比他会对我说
Mr. Hicks, I'm Lee Strobel. 希克斯先生，我是李斯特罗。
△△I'm with the, uh... the Chicago Tribune.△ △△芝加哥论坛报△
我想和你谈谈枪击案。 I'd like to talk to you about the shooting.
I figured that maybe you'd want to give me, uh, 我想，也许你会想给我，呃，
your side of things... you know, help yourself out a bit here. 你身边的事情...你知道，帮助你自己在这里。
我什么也没做。 I didn't do nothing.
Okay, so then... so then tell me how it all went down. 好的，那么，那么告诉我整个经过
我不知道。这是模糊的 I don't know. It's fuzzy.
Joe started shoving me around for no reason. 乔没有理由开始推我。
Who's Joe? 乔是谁？
- 科布林斯基 - 警察 - Koblinsky. - The cop.
Koblinsky。 Koblinsky.
他把手放在我身上， He put his hands on me,
所以我反击，像任何人一样。 so I fought back, like anyone would.
我们去了一下，然后一把枪走火了。 We go at it for a bit, then a gun goes off.
- Whose gun? - I don't know. - 谁的枪？ - 我不知道。
就像我跟你说的那样，那天晚上我正在喝酒。 Like I told you, I was drinking that night.
- It was fuzzy. - Crime scene report says - 这是模糊的 - 犯罪现场报告说
他们在灌木丛中发现了你的.22口径手枪， they found your .22-caliber pistol in the bushes,
它缺了一颗子弹 that it was missing a bullet
它有你的指纹。 and it had your prints all over it.
科布林斯基携带.38。 Koblinsky carries a .38.
His gun was never fired. 他的枪从未开过火。
In fact, it was never taken out of its holster, so... 事实上，它从来没有被拿出皮套，所以...
如果你没有射他，那么是谁呢？ if you didn't shoot him, then who did?
那个晚上我的老太太踢了我 My old lady kicked me out that night.
I got a little crazy, 我有点疯狂，
你知道，在大楼开了一轮， you know, fired off a round at the building,
but I didn't aim it at nobody or hurt nobody. 但是我并没有把它视为没人，也没有伤害任何人。
当科布林斯基骑在我身上时，我把我的一块扔在灌木丛中。 I tossed my piece in the bushes when Koblinsky rode up on me.
就是这样，他把它扔在灌木丛里。 That's it... he tossed it in the bushes.
我把它扔在灌木丛中。 I tossed it in the bushes.
Mr. Hicks, are you still affiliated 希克斯先生，你还是隶属的吗？
与流氓门徒？ with the Gangster Disciples?
You know what this is? 你知道这是什么吗？
这是浪费我的时间。 This is a waste of my time.
守卫。 Guard.
先生，我在这里尽力去帮你 Sir, I am trying to help you here,
and nothing that you've told me is gonna change 你告诉我的什么都不会改变
the evidence that's stacked against you, 对你叠加的证据
which right now is pretty overwhelming. 现在是绝对压倒性的，
你在说什么？你不认识我 What you talking about? You don't know me.
Okay, sir, you gotta come up with 好的，先生，你必须想出来
a better excuse than "the dog ate my bullet" 比“狗吃我的子弹”更好的借口
if you're gonna beat this thing, Mr. Hicks. 希克斯先生，如果你打败这件事情，
Your client's guilty as sin. 你的客户有罪是罪。
- 你知道吗，对吧？ - 真的吗 - You know that, right? - Really?
- God loves you and so do I ! - 上帝爱你，我也是！
△△Father Marquez. Lee Strobel.△ △△父亲马克斯李斯特劳
△△- Thank you for seeing me. l... - Of course. Of course.△ △△ - 谢谢你看到我。我... - 当然。当然
I, uh... I should tell you 我，呃，我应该告诉你
I'm a bit of a history buff myself, so... 我有一点历史迷自己，所以...
- Oh. -Yeah, I'm-I'm... I'm particularly intrigued - 哦 - 是啊，我是...我很感兴趣
与你的考古工作。 with your archaeological work.
哦。以前的生活。 Oh. A former life.
Uh, former life, yes. 呃，以前的生活，是的。
I'm a... I'm a bit surprised, given your, uh... 我是一个...我有点惊讶，考虑到你，呃...
你的声誉很好，你只是 your stellar reputation that you just
gave all that up for, uh, this. 给了所有这些，呃，这个。
Well, would you like to be more specific? 那么你想更具体吗？
Well, it just seems to me that, 那么在我看来，
对于2000年的更好的部分， for the better part of 2,000 years,
基督教一直在创造这些... Christianity has been creating these...
these rituals and these rules. 这些仪式和这些规则。
你知道，他们已经建立了这些精心设计的 You know, they've erected these elaborate
而且经常昂贵的大教堂， and often expensive cathedrals,
and all of that to support a faith 所有这些都支持信仰
我相信是最终建立在沙滩上。 that I believe is-is ultimately built on sand.
然而，它仍然是站立的。 And yet it's all still standing.
Yes, because people keep telling each other 是的，因为人们不断的告诉对方
相同的故事一遍又一遍。 the same stories over and over again.
Just because I write something down 只是因为我写下来的东西
and I bury it in the dirt, that doesn't make it true. 我把它埋在泥土里，这并不是真的。
I think I'm beginning to see the crux of your visit. 我想我开始看到你的访问的关键。
Look, I... 看，我...
我明白了一些人 I understand that a number of people
claimed to have seen Jesus after his crucifixion 声称看到耶稣在他被钉十字架后
and some of them even wrote it down, 有些甚至写下来，
我们怎么可以确定 How-how can we be sure
这些手稿的可靠性？ of the reliability of those manuscripts?
Well, the same way we authenticate 那么，我们认同的方式
by comparing and contrasting 通过比较和对比
the copies that have been recovered. 已经恢复的副本。
它被称为文本批评。 It's called textual criticism.
The more copies we have, 我们有更多的副本，
the better that we can cross-reference 我们可以更好地交叉参考
and figure out if what the original was saying 并弄清楚原来是在说什么
在历史上是准确的。 is historically accurate.
而他们在历史上越早越好。 And the earlier they come from in history, the better.
Take Homer's "Iliad," for example. 以荷马的“伊利亚特”为例。
MARQUEZ嗯？ MARQUEZ Hmm?
这是真的吗？ Is this real?
它与马其顿的泥土一样真实 It's as real as the Macedonian dirt
that I dug it up from. 我挖了它。
那么，希腊人认为这是他们的圣经 Well, the Greeks considered this their Bible
- for many centuries. - Yes, they did. - 几个世纪以来- 是的，他们做了。
That is one of 1,565 copies in existence today. 这是今天存在的1,565份之一。
现在，“伊利亚特”是最初组成的 Now, the "Iliad" was originally composed
- 基督前800年。 - 好的。 - 800 years before Christ. - Okay.
This Greek copy is dated at the third century A.D. 这个希腊版本是在第三世纪A.D.
So... 所以...
800...那就是... 800... that's-that's...
这个副本和原来的1,100年是的，是的？ 1,100 years between this copy and the original, yes?
正确。只有一个古代的着作收藏 Correct. There is only one ancient collection of writings
that has more authenticated copies than the "lliad." 比“lliad”有更多的认证副本。
Can you guess what that is? 你能猜到这是什么吗？
You're gonna tell me the Bible. 你会告诉我圣经。
新约圣经。 The New Testament.
那是多少份？ And how many copies is that?
To date, archaeologists have recovered 5,843 到目前为止，考古学家已经恢复了5,843
希腊新约手稿。 Greek New Testament manuscripts.
That's four times as many as the "lliad." 这是“lliad”的四倍。
- Really? - The earliest fragment - 真的吗 - 最早的片段
of the Gospel of John was found in ancient Egypt, 约翰的福音被发现在古埃及，
and it dates to the second century A.D. 它可追溯到二世纪。
原来有多接近？ How close is that to the original?
Less than 30 years. 不到30年
I have one of the fragments in my collection. 我的收藏中有一个碎片。
- 这是一个宝藏，不是吗？ - 嗯 - It's quite a treasure, isn't it? - Hmm.
新约与“以利亚”之后， After the New Testament and the "lliad,"
runners-up don't even come close. 亚军甚至没有接近。
我们只有一百份副手， We only have a hundred copies of Sophocles,
seven copies of Plato's tetralogies 柏拉图四部曲七本
亚里斯多德只有五份任何东西。 and only five copies of anything by Aristotle.
In fact, if you laid the surviving copies of Aristotle 事实上，如果你放下亚里士多德的幸存副本
一个在另一个之上，它将只有四英尺。 one on top of the other, it would make barely four feet.
你对新约的幸存副本也是如此， You do the same with surviving copies of the New Testament,
the stack would be a mile high. 堆栈会高一英里。
Nothing else in history even comes close. 历史上的其他事物甚至没有接近。
那么“可靠”呢？ How is that for "reliable"?
嗯，父亲，我当然很感激。 Well, Father, I certainly appreciate it.
You've given me a lot of food for thought. 你给了我很多食物的想法。
完全是我的荣幸 Entirely my pleasure.
哦，哇 Oh, wow.
都灵之盾。 The Shroud of Turin.
That is a fantastic reproduction. 这是一个梦幻般的复制。
呃，实际的护罩在大教堂里 Uh, the actual shroud is in the Cathedral
圣约翰浸礼会在意大利。 of Saint John the Baptist in Italy.
在锁和钥匙下。 Under lock and key.
Of course. 当然。
没有人曾经证明过这个长袍 No one's ever proven if the shroud
是基督的实际埋葬布， is the actual burial cloth of the Christ,
但是每当有人第一次看着那些眼睛时， but whenever someone looks in those eyes for the first time,
两千年前挂在十字架上的加利利人 the Galilean who hung on the cross two millennia ago
突然变成了一个真实的人。 suddenly becomes a real person.
But why would he do it? 但他为什么要这样做呢？
Why... why allow himself to be killed 为什么...为什么让自己被杀死
如果他真的是...神的儿子？ if-if he really is the... the Son of God?
为什么不用自己的力量来维护自己？ Why not use his power to defend himself?
答案是什么让我 The answer to that is what got me
从泥土里进入教堂。 out of the dirt and into the church.
真的很简单 It's really very simple.
Love. 爱。
Mm-hmm. MM-嗯。
爱。 Love.
♪继续，我的未来的儿子♪ ♪ Carry on, my wayward son ♪
♪完成♪会有和平♪ ♪ There'll be peace when you are done ♪
♪ Lay your weary head to rest ♪ ♪放下疲惫的头休息♪
♪不要再哭了...♪ ♪ Don't you cry no more... ♪
△△你说的是历史基督△ △△You're saying that the historical Christ△
△△相同△ △△is identical△
to the religious basis for Jesus Christ? 到耶稣基督的宗教基础？
请投一美元继续通话。 Please deposit one dollar to continue talking.
山口博士，你能忍受一秒钟吗？ Dr. Yamaguchi, could you hold for one second, please?
你好。李斯特劳尔与芝加哥论坛报。 Hi. Lee Strobel with the Chicago Tribune.
长官你好吗？ How are you, sir?
△△博士。本·威灵顿告诉我他会是△ △△Dr. Ben Witherington told me he'd be△
△△让你知道我会打电话 △△letting you know that I'd be calling.△
△△Well, no, I just wanted to check on the validity△ △△好的，不，我只想检查一下有效性△
of a few historical documents, if I could. 的几个历史文件，如果可以的话。
♪如果我自称是聪明人♪ ♪ And if I claim to be a wise man ♪
♪ It surely means that I don't know ♪ ♪这肯定意味着我不知道♪
♪ On a stormy sea of moving emotion ♪ ♪在一个风雨如磐的海洋中♪
♪被扔了我就像一艘船在海洋♪ ♪ Tossed about I'm like a ship on the ocean ♪
♪我设定了风的风♪的课程♪ ♪ I set a course for winds of fortune ♪
♪ But I hear the voices say ♪ ♪但我听到声音说♪
♪继续，我的未来的儿子♪ ♪ Carry on, my wayward son ♪
♪ There'll be peace when you are done ♪ ♪完成♪会有和平♪
♪放下疲惫的头休息♪ ♪ Lay your weary head to rest ♪
♪不要再哭了♪ ♪ Don't you cry no more. ♪
Ah! 啊!
A-one，a-two... A-one, a-two...
a-three. 一三。
Three. 三。
△△How many licks does it take△ △△还要承担多少
△△to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?△ △△才能到达Tootsie Pop的Tootsie Roll中心？△
△△世界可能永远都不知道 △△The world may never know.△
到底怎么回事？ What on earth?
It's 3:00 in the morning, hon. 嗯早上3点
- What you doing? - Oh, uh... - 你在干什么？ - 哦，呃...
a little research for a story. 一个故事的一点研究。
你的故事是什么？进口德国啤酒？ What's your story on? Imported German beer?
Oh, the judgment. Here it comes. 哦，判断。它来了。
- 我不是在判断你- 来吧。 - I'm not judging you. - Bring it on.
I'm worried, hon, that you've been up late every night 我很担心，你晚上过得很晚
或出 or out.
I just... I feel like you're not here with me. 我只是...我觉得你不在我身边。
那是谁的错，那是莱斯利？ Well, whose fault is that, Leslie?
好的。 Okay.
You've obviously had one too many. 你显然有一个太多了。
- You're being a jerk. - So this is my fault, then? - 你是个混蛋，那么这是我的错，那么
爱人， Sweetheart,
我不是那个去改变的人。你做到了 I'm not the one who went and changed. You did that.
我不知道，也许我对你不够。 I don't know, maybe I wasn't enough for you.
Maybe... maybe you had to go find yourself a new man. 也许你不得不去找一个新人。
- 什么？ - 是的 - What? - Yes.
You're cheating on me. 你在欺骗我
With Jesus. 与耶稣
You're hilarious. 你很搞笑
你离开了深处，现在你已经生气了 You went off the deep end, and now you're pissed off
因为我不会跟你跳进去。 'cause I won't jump in after you.
I'm gonna sit this one out. 我不参加这次行动。
- All right? - Great. - 好吧？ - 太好了
I'm going back to sleep. 我要回去睡觉了
- I'm gonna crash on the couch. - Fine. - 我会在沙发上打瞌睡 - 好
Hey, I didn't sign up for this, Les! 嘿，我没有注册这个，Les！
我要我的妻子回来！ I want my wife back!
请告诉我该怎么办 Please just tell me what to do.
告诉我该怎么办 Just tell me what to do.
嘿。早上好。 Hey. Good morning.
你昨晚睡得好吗？ Did you sleep good last night?
你有甜蜜的梦想吗？ You have sweet dreams?
- Mm-hmm. - Good. 嗯，嗯。 - 好
好的，嗯， 待会见，好吧，宝贝？ Okay, well, I'll see you later, all right, baby?
Mm-hmm. MM-嗯。
△△Strobel!△ △△斯特罗贝尔！△
在中午的裂缝中滚动 Rolling in at the crack of noon.
Just trying to get to the bottom 只是想到底部
of this cop shooting, chief. 的这个警察射击，酋长。
Mm-hmm. By reading Voltaire. MM-嗯。阅读伏尔泰
Can't wait to see how that's gonna play in. 不能等待看看会怎么样。
那就是不同的东西。 Well, that's for something different.
我正在阅读复本多久？ How long till I'm reading copy?
我争取，好吗？ I'm trying, Okay?
这里有一个很大的故事。我觉得。 There's a big story here. I feel it.
是的，我需要在这里感觉到。 Yeah, I need to feel it right here.
I know that, and I'm gonna do my best to make that happen. 我知道，我会尽力做到这一点。
好吧？ All right?
Oh, excuse me. 哦，对不起
法律事务处。 Legal Affairs desk.
- 李斯特劳尔？ - 请讲。 - Lee Strobel? - Speaking.
是的，这是呃比尔克雷格。 Yeah, this is, uh, Bill Craig.
对不起。谁？ I'm sorry. Who?
比尔·克雷格 Bill Craig.
克雷格博士，谢谢你的回电。 Dr. Craig, thank you for returning my call.
我很感激。 I appreciate that.
△△是的，对不起延迟 △△Yeah, I'm sorry for the delay.△
△△我来自耶路撒冷 △△I'm-I'm calling from Jerusalem.△
I have to give a lecture any minute. I just, uh... 我必须稍等一下讲课。我只是，呃...
我不想让你等待。 I didn't want to keep you waiting.
我直奔主题。 I'll cut right to the chase.
所以，我一直在做研究 So, I've been doing research
into the purported resurrection of Jesus, 进入所谓的耶稣的复活，
我想要你运行一个理论。 and I want to run a theory by you.
也许这个坟墓是空的 Maybe the reason that the tomb was empty
是因为耶稣的身体从来不在那里。 was because Jesus' body was never there in the first place.
Because we know that the Romans used to throw the bodies of... 因为我们知道罗马人曾经扔了尸体
的，呃，被钉十字架的受难者。 of, uh, crucifixion subjects to the dogs.
- 对？ - 没有证据表明， - Right? -Well, there's no evidence for that,
但耶稣没有发生特定的记录。 but there are specific records that didn't happen to Jesus.
- And what records are those? - Well, actually, 那些是什么记录？ - 实际上，
最早记录的帐户告诉我们，耶稣是确切的 the earliest recorded accounts tell us that Jesus was properly
埋在坟墓里，罗马人确实容许了 buried in a tomb... And the Romans did allow
埋葬一些被钉十字架的受难者。 for burial of some crucifixion victims.
But then there's something that still doesn't add up to me 但是，有些东西依然不符合我的要求
about all of these supposed eyewitnesses 关于所有这些假想的目击者
that claimed to have found Jesus' empty tomb. 声称已经找到了耶稣的空墓。
What, the fact that they were all women? 什么，他们都是女人的事实？
Yeah, because... because we know that, 是的，因为...因为我们知道，
根据犹太人的习俗， according to Jewish customs,
妇女被认为是不可靠的证人。 women were deemed to be unreliable witnesses.
- 我对吗？ - 嗯，真的。 - Am I right? - Well, true.
So, why did all four gospel writers record 那么，为什么四位福音作家都记录下来
that it was women who discovered the empty tomb? 那是妇女发现空墓的呢？
它...所以我问你。 It... So I'm asking you that.
Well, if you were a first-century Jew 那么，如果你是一个一世纪的犹太人
making up this story out of thin air, 弥补这个故事，从稀薄的空气，
那么你永远不会说女人发现了坟墓。 then you would never say that women discovered the tomb.
- 它会损害你的情况，没有帮助。 -好的。 - It would damage your case, not help it. -Okay.
所以也许我们正在处理世界上最无知的门徒。 So maybe we're dealing with the world's most inept disciples.
Or maybe the disciples reported what actually happened 或者也许门徒报道了实际发生的事情
and let the chips fall where they may. 并顺其自然。
好的，没错，但是你必须在这里承认 Okay, all right, but you-you have to admit here
that there is a... there is a gaping hole 有一个...有一个空洞
- in all of this. - A gaping hole? - 所有这一切。 - 一个空洞？
福音书的填充事实 The-the fact that the gospels are filled
with contradictions about the empty tomb. 与空墓相冲突。
好的？如果我转过一个这样混乱的故事， Okay? If I turned in a story that was this jumbled,
我会失业的。 I'd be out of a job.
如果我们看福音书，你从...开始 If we look through the gospels, you start at...
从马太福音开始，好吗？ start at Matthew, okay?
马太将抹大拉的玛丽和其他一些玛丽放在墓前。 Matthew puts Mary Magdalene and some other Mary at the tomb.
你翻过马克，他补充了萨洛美。 You flip over to Mark, he adds Salome.
你去路加，他补充说，詹姆斯的母亲玛丽， You go to Luke, he adds Mary, mother of James,
然后一些名叫乔安娜的女士。 and then some lady named Joanna.
那是什么？你需要一个夏尔巴指南 What-what is that? You need a Sherpa guide
通过这个混乱排序你的方式。 to sort your way through this mess.
当然有差异，但是 Sure, there are differences, but that
doesn't trouble most historians. 大多数历史学家并不麻烦。
Why? Why doesn't that trouble...? 为什么？为什么不麻烦？
It troubles me. It should trouble them. 它困扰着我，应该麻烦他们
Because the core of the story is the same in all four. 因为这四个故事的核心是一样的。
After Jesus is placed in the tomb, 耶稣被安置在坟墓之后，
星期天早上由一小群妇女参观， it's visited on Sunday morning by a small group of women,
and they find the body is gone. 他们发现身体不见了。
Now, you've studied law. 现在，你已经学习了法律。
Yeah, law, yes. 是的，法律，是的。
Then you know that, when policemen question 那么你知道，当警察问题
several witnesses at a crime scene, they never expect 几名证人在犯罪现场，他们从来没有期望
the secondary details to be consistent, 次要细节要一致，
as long as the core account is the same. 只要核心账号相同。
事实上，如果他们太相似，那就是怀疑。 In fact, if they're too similar, it's suspect.
- 那是真实的。 - 那就是这样 - That's true. - Well, that's exactly
我们在说什么 what we're talking about here.
空墓是以证据为依据， The empty tomb is based on evidence,
and isn't evidence your trade? 并不是您的交易的证据？
It is, yes, but what if... what if the Resurrection 是的，但是，如果...如果复活怎么办？
is one of the historical details 是历史细节之一
记录不正确？ that was recorded incorrectly?
How can we know? How can we ever know? 我们怎么知道？我们怎么知道？
李... Lee...
let me ask you something. 让我问你一件事
Do you really want to know the truth, 你真的想知道真相吗？
or is your mind already made up, 或者你的头脑已经弥补了，
- 不管事实如何 - 哦，看，文档， - regardless of the facts? - Oh, look, Doc,
我是记者，好吗？ I-I'm a journalist, okay?
It's my job to challenge assumptions 我的工作是挑战假设
直到它们被证明是其他的。 until they're proven otherwise.
这就是我所做的一切 That's all I'm doing.
那我得到了 Well, I get that.
But when is enough evidence enough evidence? 但足够的证据，足够证据？
He 's so frustrating. 他非常沮丧。
我只是不擅长这个，我猜。 I'm just not good at this, I guess.
我只是...我想和他分享一下。 I just... I want to share it with him.
I want to celebrate it, 我想庆祝它，
and I'm walking on eggshells in my own home. 我在自己的家里走在蛋壳上。
Well, it's probably the same for him. 那对他来说可能是一样的。
他也在蛋壳上走，所以... He's walking on eggshells, too, so...
给自己休息一下 give yourself a break.
But the more I try to reach him, 但是我越想找到他，
- 他越离开越多。 - 可以，然后呢... - the more he pulls away. - Okay, so...
how did you reach him before? 你以前怎么到达他的？
Well, We'd talk. 那我们会聊聊
我们真的会说话听，... We'd really talk and listen and...
"Listen." “听。”
去做。 Do that.
Easier said than done. 比说起来容易了
芝加哥警察局 第一次对黑帮进行重新排查
Koblinsky... Koblinsky...
Koblinsky。 Koblinsky.
Koblinsky。 Koblinsky。 Koblinsky. Koblinsky.
Koblinsky。你得开玩笑吧 Koblinsky. You gotta be kidding me.
△△这里说Koblinsky△ △△Says here that Koblinsky△
是希克斯的逮捕官六次。 was Hicks's arresting officer six times.
Obviously, these guys knew each other. 显然，这些人彼此认识。
In fact, when I interviewed Hicks, he slipped up. 事实上，当我采访了希克斯时，他滑落了。
他以他的名字叫科布林斯基。 He called Koblinsky by his first name.
那么你的结论是什么呢？ So, what's your theory?
我的结论是，希克斯是一个告密者 My theory is that Hicks is an informant
for the gang task force and Koblinsky is his handler. 对于帮派工作组和科布林斯基是他的处理者。
这意味着一个帮派成员刚刚拍摄自己的处理程序 Which means a gang member just shot his own handler
and, for some reason, Chicago PD's covering it up. 而且由于某种原因，芝加哥公民党也将其覆盖。
PD保护这个家伙。他是一个警察射手。 PD's protecting this guy. He's a cop shooter.
我不能运行，除非你让我在PD内的一个源... I can't run that unless you get me a source inside the PD...
有人确认希克斯是一个告密者。 Someone to confirm Hicks is an informant.
嗯，我需要一点帮助。 Well, I'm gonna need a little help.
Dinner and drinks only. 晚餐和饮料。
Well, drinks at least. 那么，至少喝酒
带回我的收据。 Bring me back a receipt.
And don't close the... 不要关闭...
△△What do you want from me, Strobe]?△ △△你想要什么，频闪]？△
这是一个开放的情况。这是我所知道的。 It's an open-and-shut case. That's all I know.
So, you're... you're on the gang squad. 所以，你是...你在帮派小队。
这就是你所知道的 That's all you know?
You gotta give me something. 你得给我一些东西
Can... can I get you dinner? 可以...可以让你吃晚餐吗
You like steak? 你喜欢牛排吗
这是我的理论。 Here's my theory.
Koblinsky's on your team, and Hicks is your informant. 科布林斯基在你的团队，希克斯是你的线人。
You think that, uh, 你认为，呃，
'cause you take down a big car company 因为你打倒了一家大汽车公司
每个岩石下面都有阴谋？ that there's a conspiracy underneath every rock?
No, don't-don't... Come on, Acosta, 不，不要不要...来吧，阿科斯塔，
you know that I'm right. 你知道我是对的
科布林斯基的英雄，好吗？ Koblinsky's a hero, okay?
No one's taking that away from him. 没有人把他从他身上拿走。
But his own snitch shoots him, 但他自己的告密者射杀他，
and your bosses don't want it getting out. 你的老板不希望它出来。
That doesn't look good for your new department, politics 这对你的新部门，政治来说看起来不太好
or whatever, I get it. 或者什么，我得到它。
你想知道我听到了什么 You want to know what I hear?
I hear they're gonna knock Hicks's time 我听说他们会打击希克斯的时间
到县的小时候。 down to petty time in county.
They're gonna put him back on the streets. 他们会把他放回街上。
他们提供希克斯的呼吁来保持他的嘴巴关闭。 They're offering Hicks a plea to keep his mouth shut.
现在，你不想要。 Now, you don't want that.
现在，我需要运行这个故事 Now, all I need to run this story
是队的一个来源。 is one source from the squad.
这样，大家知道希克斯是一个凳子， That way, everybody knows Hicks is a stoolie,
he goes away for a long time, 他走了很久，
而且，繁荣时期，你的工作组没有警察射手。 and, boom, your task force is free of cop shooters.
I'm not gonna quote you. I'm not gonna use your name. 我不会引用你的我不会用你的名字。
You don't have to go on the record. Nothing. 你不必记录下来。没有。
这个怎么样？ How about this?
If I'm even in the right ballpark, 如果我甚至在正确的球场，
you leave the tip. 你留下提示。
Drop a couple bucks on the table, 放在桌子上的几块钱，
起来，你走出这里， get up, you walk out of here,
我知道我可以安全地运行我的故事。 I know that I'm safe to run my story.
我会做一个更好的一个 I'll do you one better.
I'll pay for the meal. 我会付钱的。
这是废话。 It was crap anyways.
△△Now, how confident are you on this?△ △△现在，你对此有多自信？
△△非常。△ △△Very.△
Okay. 好的。
拿到复印台。 Get it to the copy desk.
首页... Green Streak版。 Front page... Green Streak edition.
呃，不要... Uh, and d-don't...
李？ Lee?
嘿。 Hey.
我让你喝咖啡 I made you coffee.
Oh, okay. 哦好的。
闭嘴喝咖啡。 Shut up and take the coffee.
Goodness. 善良。
- I wanted to ask you a favor. - Mm-hmm. - 我想问你一个忙嗯，嗯。
呃，我正在带孩子去教堂。 Uh, the... I'm taking the kids to church.
跟我们来。 Come with us.
我为什么要这么做？ Why would I do that?
Because I asked you to... Nicely... and... 因为我问你...很好...和...
because, even though you think I've lost my mind, 因为，即使你认为我已经失去了思想，
you'd still do anything to make me happy. 你仍然会做任何事让我开心。
我还要带我的笔记本， I'm still gonna bring my notebook,
in case I uncover a church scandal or something. 如果我发现教会的丑闻或某事。
应对。 Deal.
准备走了 Get ready to go.
- 15 minutes. - Mm-mm. - 15分钟。 - Mm-mm。
♪ When I'm depressed and I get down so low ♪ ♪当我郁闷，我低下♪
♪然后我看到你来找我♪ ♪ And then I see You coming to me ♪
♪没关系♪ ♪ It's all right ♪
♪ Oh ♪ ♪哦♪
♪ You put this love in my heart ♪ ♪把爱放在我的心里♪
♪你把爱放在心里。 ♪ ♪ You put this love in my heart. ♪
Some of you have had bad experiences in church before, 你们中有些人在教堂里有过糟糕的经历，
我得到了教会不完美。 and I get that. Churches aren't perfect.
牧师不完美。我知道我不是 Pastors aren't perfect. I know I'm not.
但那不是神。 But that's not God.
That's people. 那就是人。
God wants to be your Father. 神想成为你的父。
爱你，直到你知道他的天国的应许。 To love you until you know His promise of Heaven.
因为这是我们信仰的简单真理。 Because this is the simple truth of our faith.
上帝造我们 God made us.
We messed things up. 我们搞砸了事情
Christ paid for our mess, 基督支付我们的混乱，
我们所要做的就是接受他。 and all we have to do is receive Him.
It really is as simple as that. 真的很简单。
△△嗨△ △△Hi.△
李。 Lee.
- 嘿，李。 - 嘿很高兴见到你，阿尔菲。 - Hey, Lee. - Hey. Good to see you, Alfie.
很高兴见到你。我看到你带来了宝宝。 Good to see you. I see you brought the baby.
Yeah, yeah. He's growing up. 是啊。他长大了
嘿，呃，我可以跟你聊一分钟吗？ Hey, uh, can I talk to you for a minute?
嗯，当然可以。 Um, sure... sure.
是啊，我只是想说 - 那个... Yeah, I-| just wanted to say that-that...
we are grateful, uh, for what you did with Alison. 我们很感激，呃，你和艾莉森做了什么。
- Oh... - And-and we owe you. - 哦，我们欠你。
而且我和我 - 我的意思并不那个。 And... and-and I-I don't mean that lightly.
但现在，这件事与莱斯利， But now, this whole thing with Leslie,
它需要停止。 it needs to stop.
I don't understand. 我不明白。
You're-you're putting ideas in her head. 你把想法放进她脑袋里
You're drawing her into... in this, and... 你把她拉进这个....
而且我知道这是如何工作的。我认识你们 and-and I know how this works. I know you folks
have a mandate, okay? You need to raise money. 有任务，好吗？你需要筹集资金。
You need to get the good news out and all that. 你需要得到好消息和所有这些。
I'm just letting you know 我只是让你知道
that you're gonna need to find someone else to recruit. 你会需要找别人招聘。
李，你的妻子不是被洗脑。 Lee, your wife is not brainwashed.
她正在寻求上帝，我只是想帮助。 She's seeking God, and I'm just trying to help.
She is vulnerable, and you are taking advantage. 她很脆弱，你正在利用。
她是我的妻子，这是我们的生命， She's my wife, this is our life,
我要你离开它。 and I want you to stay out of it.
现在，那是否清晰？ Now, is that clear?
好吧，来吧。 All right, come on.
- 我们走吧。 - 好... - Let's go. - Well...
无论如何，再见。 anyhow, see you.
- 好的。 - 艾莉森？ - Okay. - Alison?
来吧，亲爱的 Come on, sweetie.
再见。 Bye.
李。 Lee.
爸。 Dad.
△△There he is. △△他是。
Hello, sweetheart. 亲爱的你好
- 你好你好。 - 大块头。哦，他太甜了 - Hi. Hi. - Big guy. Oh, he's so sweet.
Hi, honey. 嗨，亲爱的
哦，沃尔特，看看他有多帅。 Oh, Walt, look at how handsome he is.
- 我会说。 - 哦，他是个天使。 - I'll say. - Oh, he's an angel.
Yeah. 是啊。
哦，亲爱的哦... Oh, sweetheart. Oh...
你知道什么，是你的小睡时间。 You know what, it's time for your nap.
Nap time, so... 休息时间，所以...
Okay, honey, there you go. 好的，亲爱的，你去。
I love his name. 我爱他的名字
What's his middle name? 他的中间名是什么？
克里斯托弗。凯尔·克里斯托弗 Christopher. Kyle Christopher.
You didn't use "John" in his name? 你没有使用“约翰”在他名字里？
Walter. 沃尔特。
Kyle Christopher is a beautiful name. 凯尔克里斯托弗是一个美丽的名字。
It's a beautiful name, but "John" has been 这是一个美丽的名字，但“约翰”一直是
in the Strobel line for generations. 在Strobel线几代人。
Oh, here we go. 哦，我们走吧。
Because I didn't want to name my son John, okay? 因为我不想命名我的儿子约翰，好吗？
Your grandpa's John. So is your older brother. 你爷爷的约翰，你哥哥也是。
MM-嗯。这也是厕所的委婉语 Mm-hmm. It's also the euphemism for a toilet
and the client of a prostitute. 和妓女的客户。
Lee! 李！
Really? 真？
Sorry I brought it up. 对不起我带来了
不知道你们为什么来了 Don't know why you guys came anyway.
没人邀请你 Nobody invited you.
我去透透气。 I'm gonna get some air.
Leslie, it was lovely to see you. 莱斯利，很高兴见到你。
- 感谢你的到来。 - 谢谢。 - Thanks for coming. - Thanks.
李，真的有必要吗？ Lee, was that really necessary?
我从妈妈那里学到了最好的东西。 I learned from the best of 'em, Mom.
Oh, I just wish the two of you could learn 哦，我只是希望你们两个可以学习
- 相互理解 - 哦，你知道吗 - to understand each other. - Oh, you know what?
我希望很多东西。 I wish a lot of things.
I... What do you want from me? 我...你想要什么？
The guy never cared about me my whole life. 这个人从来没有在乎我的一生。
现在突然间，我有孩子， Now, suddenly, I got kids,
他想成为最好的朋友？没有。 and he wants to be best friends? No.
It's too late. 太晚了
Honey, I'm gonna go do some work. 亲爱的，我要去做一些工作。
对不起。我知道他总是很难。 I'm sorry. I know it's always hard with him.
这永远不会发生在我们身上。 That can never happen to us.
△△Ray，我告诉你，我已经检查了 △△Ray, I'm telling you, I've checked it out.△
△△I've interviewed a dozen△ △△我采访了十几个△
历史学家，哲学家，考古学家。 historians, philosophers, archaeologists.
有这些帐户 There's all these accounts
相互证实的实际目击者。 of actual eyewitnesses which corroborate each other.
People with zero motivation to lie. 没有动机的人谎言。
In fact, they should've lied. 其实他们应该撒谎。
Some of them ended up dying for their beliefs. 其中一些人因为信仰而死亡。
我失去了思想，雷。 I'm losing my mind, Ray.
I wake up every morning, and, um, I think to myself, 我每天早晨醒来，而且，我想到自己，
"Maybe today's the day. “也许今天是今天。
Maybe... maybe today she'll come to her senses." 也许今天也许她会来找她的感觉。“
And she doesn't. 她没有
You know, just gets worse. 你知道，只是变得更糟。
Thing of it is, she's different. 事情是，她是不同的。
她实际上是不同的。 She's actually different.
你知道，那是什么吓倒了我。 You know, that's what scares the heck out of me.
只想念我的妻子 Just miss my wife.
I wish that I could be of more help to you, Lee. 我希望我可以帮助你，李。
但只要记住... But just remember...
莱斯利很清楚，你不赞成这一切， Leslie knows full well that you don't approve of all this,
but she is still your wife. 但她还是你的妻子。
而且你非常爱她。 And you love her very much.
Just make sure she knows that, too. 只要确定她也知道。
You're up early. 你早起
Mm-hmm. MM-嗯。
只是” Just"
enjoying the quiet. 享受安静
Baby's still sleeping. 宝宝还在睡觉
You Okay? 你好吗
是啊。 Yeah.
只是...感激不尽。 Just... feeling grateful.
△△为你 △△For you.△
为了我们。 For us.
是啊。我也是。 Yeah. Me, too.
What would you say if we... 如果我们...
went out tonight? 今晚出去吗
Grabbed some dinner. 抓了一些晚餐。
Maybe, uh... maybe a little dancing. 也许呃可能有点跳舞。
但只是你和我。 But just you and me.
No kids. 没有孩子
那疯了？ That be crazy?
呃... Uh...
- Little bit? - Yeah. - 一点点？ - 是啊
A little bit. 一点点。
Let's do it. 我们开始做吧。
- 是啊嗯，嗯。 - Yeah? - Mm-hmm.
I want to take care of us. 我想照顾我们
You and only you. 你只有你
是啊。 Yeah.
△△Mr. Hicks, do you understand△ △△先生。希克斯，你明白吗
△△已经是重罪指控 △△the felony charges that have been△
filed against you? 提出反对你
是的先生。 Yes, sir.
你怎么恳求 How do you plead?
有罪，先生。 Guilty, sir.
这不是第一次 This is not the first time
I've seen you in my courtroom, son. 我在我的法庭上见过你的儿子。
I know you thought you'd be walking away today 我知道你以为你今天要走了
with a slap on the wrist, 在手腕上拍打，
but with recent information that's come out in the press, 但是最近有消息显示在新闻界，
嗯，今天你会得到一些困难的时间。 well, today you're gonna get some hard time.
我自由决定，我是判处你的 At my discretion, I'm sentencing you
至少15年 to a minimum of 15 years
at the Joliet State Prison. 在Joliet州监狱。
Bailiff, take him away. 执法官，把他带走。
Mr. Hicks. 希克斯先生
有罪吗？ Guilty, huh?
We're all guilty of something, reporter, 我们都是有罪的，记者，
但我并不认罪。 but I ain't guilty of this.
Okay, so then why not maintain your innocence? 那么为什么不保持你的清白呢？
为什么要恳求？ Why cop a plea?
Your story didn't give me no choice, did it? 你的故事没有给我没有选择，是吗？
Did your story give me a choice? 你的故事让我有选择吗？
Yes, the courtroom was filled with police officers 是的，法庭里充满了警察
all awaiting the verdict... 都在等待裁决...
打扰一下。 Excuse me.
- Dubois. - He pled out, chief. - Dubois。 - 他出来，酋长。
15年。 15 years.
I guess your theory panned out, huh? 我猜你的理论摆脱了，是吗？
- Yeah. -Yeah, I wouldn't want to be Hicks, though. - 是啊不，我不想成为希克斯。
这个人现在是一个警察射手和一个帮派人士。 The guy's now a cop shooter and a gang informant.
那将是一个艰难的伸展。 That's gonna be one tough stretch.
- 是的 - 第一页的十幅画。 - Yep. - Ten grafs for page one.
是啊。返回给你 Yeah. Heading back to you.
好吧。 All right.
You know what I was just thinking? 你知道我在想什么吗？
嗯？ Hmm?
I miss you. 我想你。
我在这里 I'm right here.
Yeah? 是吗？
I wish I could make it more understandable, 我希望我能使它更容易理解，
我正在经历什么 what I'm going through.
I feel like I'm on this journey to the most amazing place 我觉得我正在这个旅程到最惊人的地方
I've ever been, and I can't take you. 我不能，我不能告诉你。
我...我甚至不能... I... I-I can't even...
我不知道如何告诉你。 I don't know how to tell you about it.
对不起。 I'm sorry.
Look, Les, I... 看，莱斯，我...
I understand... 我明白...
that all this feels good right now. 所有这一切现在感觉很好。
I mean, I went to church. I-l... 我的意思是我去教堂。 I-L...
听到音乐。 heard the music.
我得到你想要这是真的。 I get that you want this to be true.
But what if it's not? 但是如果不是呢？
你不想知道吗 Wouldn't you want to know that
before you've dedicated your entire life to it? 在你一生奉献之前呢？
Of course. 当然。
But what if it is? 但是怎么办？
What if it is true? 如果是真的呢？
你不想知道吗 Wouldn't you want to know that?
有一句话说： There's a verse that says...
信是所望之事的证据。 faith is the evidence of things we can't actually see.
你相信你可以看到和触摸和感觉， You believe what you can see and touch and feel,
and I feel this. 我觉得这样。
- 我能看到它。我知道了 - Les... - I can see it. I-I know it. - Les...
你 - 你不能。 You-you can't.
但是我... But I...
I do. 我能。
It's the same way I know I love you. 这是我知道我爱你的一样的方式。
Yeah, but that's... that's different, Les. 是的，但那是...不一样，Les。
我是真的。 I'm real.
I'm-I'm... l-I'm a person. 我是我 - 我是一个人
We-we have a relationship. 我们有一个关系。
Hon, I know we've been fighting and... 我知道我们一直在战斗...
最近很奇怪，但... it's been weird lately, but...
我... I...
I love you more now than I ever have. 我现在比以前更爱你，
Based on what? 基于什么？
"Based on what?" “基于什么？”
Honestly, it's since I accepted Jesus. 老实说，这是因为我接受了耶稣。
我对你的爱 My love for you
has only... it's only grown 只有...它只生长
它只是加深了。 and it's only deepened.
And if that's not proof of something, 如果这不是东西的证明，
I don't know what is... 我不知道是什么
不，这不是任何事情的证明，Les。 No, that's not proof of anything, Les.
那是感觉这不是证明 That's feelings. It's not proof.
And my feelings are a valid experience that-that... 而我的感受是一种有效的经历，那就是...
- Les，I-I... - 他们对我来说真实。 - Les, I-I... - They're real to me.
I-I don't like... 我不喜欢...
this version of us. 这个版本的我们。
我不...我不喜欢你正在成长。 I don't... I don't like what you're becoming.
And if I'm looking ahead 如果我向前看
我们还在进行这个谈话 and we're still having this conversation
five years from now... 五年后...
两年后我们正在进行这次对话... we're having this conversation two years from now...
我不想在那里 I don't want to be there for that.
好的？我不会成为。 Okay? I won't be.
I'm gonna check on the kids. 我会检查孩子们。
- We can sit here for a minute. - Okay. - 我们可以坐在这里一分钟。 - 好的。
- Okay. Thank you. Okay. - Okay. - 好的。谢谢。好的。 - 好的。
阿尔菲，我正在失去希望。 Alfie, I'm-I'm losing hope.
我正在失去李的希望。 I'm losing hope for Lee.
我失去了我的婚姻希望。 I'm losing hope for my marriage.
Oh, come on, now. It's gonna be okay. 哦，现在来吧。它会没事的
- 没关系 - 不， - It'll be all right. - No,
- 我不知道该怎么办。 - 好吧，好的。 - I don't know what to do. - All right, okay.
I know that it's scary. 我知道这是可怕的。
我做。相信我。 I do. Trust me.
我去过那里。 I've been there.
But I can promise you this. 但我可以向你保证。
在他的时间和他的方式， In His time and in His way,
上帝永远遵守他的应许。 God always keeps His promises.
他答应了以西结么？ And what did He promise Ezekiel?
"I will give you a new heart. “我会给你一个新的心。
“我会把一个新的精神在你身上。 "I will put a new spirit in you.
"I will remove from you your heart of stone “我会从你身上取出你的石头心
and give you a heart of flesh." 给你一颗肉的心。“
现在，这是一个你已经知道的事实。 Now, that's a truth you already know.
是啊。 Yeah.
但是，这是同样的道理。 But it's the same truth for Lee.
You just gotta be patient. 你必须耐心等待
Okay. 好的。
Thank you. 谢谢。
- 谢谢。 - 哦，来这里 - Thank you. - Oh, come here.
你会好起来的 You're gonna be fine.
I promise. 我承诺。
I promise, I'm praying for both of you. 我保证，我为你们两个祈祷。
Mm-hmm. MM-嗯。
嘿，只是因为他们说他们看见了耶稣 Hey, just because they said they saw Jesus
doesn't mean they actually did. 并不意味着他们真的做到了。
I'm sorry. Was that for me? 对不起。对我来说
Maybe the eyewitnesses to the Resurrection... 也许复活的目击者...
Maybe they're delusional. You know what I mean? 也许他们是妄想。你知道我的意思？
Maybe they only thought they saw Jesus. 也许他们只是以为他们看见了耶稣。
Maybe it was, like, mind control or brainwashing. 也许是像心智控制或洗脑一样。
Rod! Rod！
You need to see a psychologist. 你需要看一位心理学家。
Oh, you think I got a screw loose? 哦，你觉得我有一个松动的螺丝？
Yeah, well, that's another story. 嗯，那是另一个故事。
But if you're talking about first-century mass psychosis, 但如果你在谈论一世纪的大规模精神病，
you need to talk to a psychologist. 你需要和心理学家交谈。
我已经领先于你了.Rod！ I'm already ahead of you. Rod!
- 嘿我需要你找我... - 对不起 - Hey. I need you to find me... - Sorry.
一位好心理学家面试。 A good psychologist to interview.
- A ps-psy... - Psychologist. That's right. - 心理学家 - 心理学家。那是对的
A guy with... with a lot of academic street cred. 一个有着很多学术街头信誉的人。
Knows the human mind better than God does. 比上帝更了解人的心灵。
没有压力，小孩。 No pressure, kid.
不要听他的话。 Don't listen to him.
△△博士。罗伯塔水域总裁△ △△Dr. Roberta Waters, president△
美国精神分析学家协会的△△，不可知...△ △△of the American Association of Psychoanalysts, agnostic...△
△△Ah, agnostic. Finally.△ △△啊，不可知论,最后，△
△△和一个领导权限△ △△And a leading authority△
△△on human behavior at Purdue University.△ 普渡大学人类行为△△△
Indiana. Great. 印第安纳州。好。
沃特斯博士 Dr. Waters.
啊。斯特罗贝尔先生，您好！ Ah. Hello, Mr. Strobel.
就像我想要的那样多 As much as I would like
to help a fellow skeptic, 帮助一个怀疑者，
你提出的是完全不可能的。 what you're proposing is completely impossible.
但你怎么说呢？ But how can you say that?
我的意思是，如果查尔斯·曼森可以把他的追随者变成... I mean, if Charles Manson can turn his followers into...
murderous zombies, surely the followers of the Christ cult 杀人的僵尸肯定是基督邪教的追随者
could be convinced of their own delusions. 可以说服自己的妄想。
听，幻觉就像梦。 Listen, hallucinations are like dreams.
They happen in individual minds. 他们发生在个人心灵。
他们不像普通感冒一样蔓延。 They don't spread like the common cold.
Okay, so... a hypnotist 好吧，一个催眠师
turns a stage full of insurance salesmen into... 将充满保险销售员的阶段变成...
进入咯咯笑的鸡...那就是... into clucking chickens... Then that's...
那不是真的发生吗？ that's not really happening or...?
不，当然是。 No, of course it is.
The power of suggestion can be very profound. 建议的力量可以非常深刻。
但这是一件令人着迷的事情 But it's one thing to be mesmerized
into making animal noises. 去制造动物噪音。
It's quite another for 500 people 对500人来说是另一回事
有同样的梦想。 to have the same dream.
To be honest, that would be an even bigger miracle 说实话，这将是一个更大的奇迹
比复活本身。 than the Resurrection itself.
没有一个空的坟墓， And without an empty tomb,
你和我，我们甚至没有这个谈话。 you and I, we're not even having this conversation.
如果耶稣从受伤中恢复过来， If Jesus recovered from his injuries,
解决了这个问题。 that solves that problem.
All these people could have easily seen him, yes? 所有这些人都可以很容易地看到他，是的？
是的，但我恐怕不是大脑问题。 Yes, but I'm afraid that's not a brain issue.
你需要和医生说话。 You need to speak to a medical doctor.
当然。 Of course.
Dr. Waters, again, thank you for your time. 沃特斯博士再次感谢你的时间。
你是最亲切的 You've been most gracious.
在你走之前，请问你有什么事吗？ Before you go, may I ask you something?
当然。 Sure.
It's about your father. 这是关于你的父亲。
I'm just curious what your relationship 我只是好奇你的关系
with him is like. 跟他一样。
Um... 嗯...
复杂。 Complicated.
让我猜猜。 Let me guess.
遥远，寒冷，不给予太多肯定 Distant, cold, doesn't give much affirmation
or express love? 还是表达爱？
有罪的所有费用。 Guilty on all charges.
为什么？ Why?
我想象，作为一个怀疑者， I imagine, as a skeptic,
you're familiar with history's great names in atheism. 你熟悉历史上无神论伟大的名字。
休谟，尼采，萨特，弗洛伊德。 Hume, Nietzsche, Sartre, Freud.
Of course, yes. Some of my greatest heroes. 当然是的。我的一些最伟大的英雄。
Did you know that all of them had a father 你知道他们都有一个父亲吗？
谁年轻时就死了， who either died when they were young,
放弃他们， abandoned them,
身体上还是情感上是虐待？ was physically or emotionally abusive?
在治疗的世界里， In the world of therapy,
it's called a father wound. 它被称为父亲伤口。
不，我...我没有意识到这一点。 No, I... I was not aware of that.
但是，随着所有的尊重，沃特世博士， But with all due respect, Dr. Waters,
I did not have a loving father, but that doesn't mean 我没有一个爱的父亲，但这并不意味着
我有与那些谁做的问题。 that I have a problem with those who do.
What I have a problem with is some made-up loving father. 我有一个问题是一些组合的爱父亲。
If God was real... 如果上帝是真实的
I could accept that He loves me. 我可以接受他爱我
我只是不相信他是。 I just don't believe He is.
I don't disagree. 我不同意
那么不幸的是， Well, unfortunately,
my wife does. 我的妻子
The problems that it's currently causing my marriage 目前造成我婚姻的问题
是非常真实的 are very real.
Again... 再次...
thank you. 谢谢。
"I will give you a new heart “我会给你一个新的心
“并把新的精神在你身上。 "and put a new spirit in you.
“我会从你身上取出你的石头心 "I will remove from you your heart of stone
and give you a heart of flesh." 给你一颗肉的心。“
"I will give you a new heart “我会给你一个新的心
"and put a new spirit in you. “并把新的精神在你身上。
“我会从你身上取出你的石头心 "I will remove from you your heart of stone
and give you a heart of flesh." 给你一颗肉的心。“
Mass Hallucination a bigger miracle than the resurrection 集体幻觉是比复活更大的奇迹
Oh, interview... 哦，采访...
Alexander Metherell. 亚历山大·梅特雷
找到你。 Found you.
California. 加利福尼亚。
比威斯康星好。 Better than Wisconsin.
呃史特劳尔先生？ Uh, Mr. Strobel?
- 是啊 - 你有访客。 - Yeah? - You have a visitor.
Hey. Officer Koblinsky. 嘿。科布林斯基官员
How you feeling? 你的感觉如何？
呃，到那里 Eh, getting there.
好。谢谢Rod。 Good. Thanks, Rod.
Just wanted to come by and, uh, you know, 只是想来，呃，你知道，
感谢这个故事，说实话。 say thanks for the story, for telling the truth.
Yeah, well, it's my job 嗯，这是我的工作
and, uh, in this case, my pleasure. 在这种情况下，我很高兴。
Yeah. 是啊。
So, you got everything you need on Hicks? 那么，你有什么需要在希克斯？
把故事包起来？ Wrapping the story up?
嗯，好的，那就是完成了。 Yeah, well, that's... that's all done.
呃，你不必担心他射击任何人 Uh, you don't have to worry about him shooting anyone
- for another, uh, 15 years. Ooh. -Uh, - 另一个，呃15年。哦。 -Uh，
still have bullet fragments in my spleen. 我的脾脏仍然有子弹碎片。
- Ah, right, I forgot. - Yeah. - 啊，对，我忘了。 - 是啊
Price for doing my job, I guess, huh? 我的工作的代价，我猜，嗯？
Right. 对。
- 再次感谢，Strobel。 - 是啊感觉好多了。 - Thanks again, Strobel. - Yeah. Feel better.
不知道为什么你现在这样做。 Not sure why you want to do this now.
Hicks has already been sentenced. 希克斯已经被判刑
只是幽默我，马洛。 Just humor me, Marlow.
△△And here's what's weird.△ △△这里有什么奇怪的
△△他有...△ △△He's got...△
bullet fragments in his spleen, 脾脏中的子弹碎片，
but the entry wound is up here. 但入场伤口就在这里。
It's-it's as if... it's as if the weapon barrel 就是这样，就好像武器桶一样
was pointing inside the breast pocket. 指着胸前的口袋里。
是的，你可以在那里看到粉末烧伤。 Yeah, you can see the powder burns right there.
现在，几年前， Now, a couple years back,
我正在研究隐蔽武器。 I was doing research on concealed weapons.
People disguising firearms 人伪装火器
as cigarette lighters, belt buckles. 作为打火机，皮带扣。
那是一支钢笔。 That's a pen.
It's a writing utensil. 它是一个书写用具。
是吗？ Is it?
What is that? 那是什么？
花壳外壳。 Spent shell casing.
That, Mr. Marlow, is a gun. 那么，马洛先生，是枪。
这是一个... That is a...
一个22口径的钢笔枪。 a .22-caliber pen gun.
看那里那边 Look at that right there.
那就是射Koblinsky的。 That's what shot Koblinsky.
这是非法的，任何警察 This is illegal, for any cop
to carry a weapon like this while on duty. 在值班时携带这样的武器。
How could nobody have seen this? 没有人能看到这个？
'Cause nobody was looking for it. 因为没有人在寻找它。
Koblinsky had a secret. 科布林斯基有一个秘密。
他打了受害者卡，我买了它。 He played the victim card, and I bought it.
Well, so did the cops. 那么警察也是如此。
Unbelievable. 难以置信的。
他实际上是无辜的。 He's actually innocent.
He was wrongfully prosecuted, is what he is. 他被不法检控，他是谁。
You gotta get back to that judge. 你得回那个法官。
You gotta get Hicks out of lockup. 你得把希克斯锁住了。
Can you get this stuff in... 你能得到这个东西吗？
I got it. I got it. Just, you go. 我知道了。我知道了。只是，你走了
△△你怎么会错过这个？ △△How could you miss this?!△
△△Koblinsky played me.△ △△Koblinsky玩我
没有。 No.
You let yourself get played, Mr. Best Seller. 推销员先生，你欺骗自己，
And you put the integrity of this paper at risk, 而且你把这篇论文的诚信置于危险之中，
not to mention putting an innocent man in harm's way. 更不用说把无辜的人当成伤害的方式。
不管最近你分心了什么， Whatever's been distracting you lately,
it got in the way of your reporting. 它阻碍了你的报道。
现在，去写我一个撤退。 Now, go write me a retraction.
我必须打电话到楼下，让他们握住印刷机 I gotta call downstairs and have them hold the presses
so we can remake A-1. 所以我们可以重新制作A-1。
Yes, sir. 是的先生。
After this, um... 之后，嗯...
I'd like to take a few personal days, if I could. 我想要几个个人的日子，如果可以的话。
Take more than that. 超过这个。
让我生产。 Get me Production.
Leslie Strobel, Leslie Strobel，
今天非常像婚礼。 today is very much like a wedding ceremony.
By taking the step of baptism, you are publicly proclaiming 通过洗礼的步骤，你是公开宣传的
你是耶稣的追随者。 that you are a follower of Jesus.
你相信他是你的救主吗 Do you believe He is your Savior
and died for your sins? 为你的罪死了
我做。 I do.
And is it your desire to make that belief public 你是否愿意将这种信仰公开
b)' being baptized? b）“受洗了？
Yes. Yes, it is. 是。是的。
Then... 然后...
我很荣幸给你施洗 it is my privilege to baptize you
以父，圣子和圣灵的名义。 in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Thank God. 感谢上帝。
Where were you? 你去哪了？
我刚刚出来自己庆祝。 I was just out celebrating on my own.
- 好的。然后我记得我需要去 - Okay. -And then I remembered that I need to go
to Los Angeles tomorrow, so I have to pack a bag. 明天要去洛杉矶，所以我必须打包。
不不不不。洛杉矶？不，不。 No, no, no, no. Los Angeles? No, no.
今天发生了什么？ What happened today?
- 你离开了。你离开了。 - 嗯。 - You left. You left. - Uh-huh.
- 发生了什么？ - 嗯，我不想... - What happened? - Well, I didn't want to...
我不想打扰婚礼的庆祝活动。 I didn't want to interrupt the wedding festivities.
这是一个很大的事情。恭喜。 It's... that's a big deal. Congrats.
- 这是一个隐喻。 - 嗯。 - It's a metaphor. - Uh-huh.
你知道什么是比喻，对吗？ You know what a metaphor is, right?
你是个聪明人，李，对吧？ You're a smart guy, Lee, right?
- Married to Jesus. Yep. - Hey. Come here. - 结婚给耶稣。是的。 - 嘿过来。
过来。听我说。 Come here. Listen to me.
今天对我很重要。你懂的。 Today was important to me. You know that.
我不明白你怎么只能... I don't understand how you could just...
- 这让我们两个人，莱斯利。 - 李，我在这里试试！ - That makes two of us, Leslie. - Lee, I'm trying here!
- 我知道你正在努力。 - 我正在尝试...嘿，听！ - I know you're trying. - I'm trying... Hey, listen!
我知道你在尝试 I know you're trying.
- 我可以感觉到你尝试，莱斯利。 - 你可以吗？ - I can feel you trying, Leslie. - Can you?
I am. I'm trying. I'm tr... 我是。我在尝试。我是...
Behind closed doors every day, hoping 希望每天闭门
- 并祈祷，你可以... - 是的。 - and praying that you can... - Yeah.
Fix me up so I'm good enough for the Almighty. 解决了我，所以我对于全能者来说足够好。
- 那是你要的吗？ - 你需要离开 - Is that what you want? - You need to leave.
- 我不会去 - 你需要睡觉 - I'm not gonna go. - You need to sleep it off.
- I'm not gonna leave my own house. - Sleep it off. - 我不会离开我自己的房子 - 睡觉
- 睡觉 - 不，这是我的房子！ - Sleep it off. - No. This is my house!
- I'm not gonna leave! - Lee, get out! - 我不会离开！ - 李，出去！
- 这是我的房子！这是我的家人！ - 出去！ - It's my house! It's my family! - Get out!
爸爸，停止对妈妈的意思。 Daddy, stop being mean to Mommy.
- 艾莉森，你在做什么？上楼了！ -LESLIE：嘿 - Alison, what are you doing? Get upstairs now! -LESLIE: Hey.
- Keep your voice down! - Go! - 保持你的声音！ - 走！
- 你刚去加州。去吧。 - -You just go to California. Just go.
你只有你，嗯，对吧？ You and only you, hon, right?!
你只有你 You and only you.
Until something better comes along. 直到更好的一些。
Hi. 你好。
爸爸很抱歉 Daddy's sorry.
He didn't mean to scare you. 他并不意味着吓唬你。
Hi. 你好。
△△Father...△ △△父亲...△
△△给李一颗新的心脏 △△give Lee a new heart.△
△△把新的精神放在他身上 △△Put a new spirit in him.△
Remove from him his heart of stone 从他身上取出他的石头心
给他一颗肉的心。 and give him a heart of flesh.
△△So, forgive me for making you△ △△所以，原谅我让你△
△△travel all the way out here, but...△ △△一路行驶，但...△
当有人打电话给我，并说他想辩论 when someone rings me up and says he wants to dispute
the most significant event in human history, 人类历史上最重要的事件，
I feel it's important that we do it face-to-face. 我觉得我们这样做是很重要的。
- 不是吗 - 是啊，没关系 - Don't you? - Yeah, that's fine.
I, uh... l-| appreciate your time. 我，呃... 感谢你的时间
所以我的攻击是这样的： So, my line of attack is this:
The reason the eyewitnesses 目击者的原因
在各各他（髑髅地钉十架）之后能够看到耶稣 were able to see Jesus after Golgotha
是因为他从未在十字架上死亡。 is because he never died on the cross.
因为如果他不死，就没有复活了。 Because, if he doesn't die, there's no resurrection.
- 是的 - 那是对的 - Yes? - That's right.
So... so, whether or not Jesus himself or, uh... 所以...所以，不管耶稣自己还是呃...
or someone else took him off of the cross early 或者别人早点把他从十字架上取下来
或者如果他伪造自己的死亡，那没关系。 or if he fakes his own death, it doesn't matter.
它完全折扣了复活的每个方面。 It completely discounts every aspect of the Resurrection.
Right. The swoon theory. 对。昏厥的理论。
是，啊，他昏过去了。他没有死。 Yeah, well, he passed out. He didn't die.
I'm afraid there's a long line of skeptics in front of you 恐怕在你面前有一长串怀疑论者
with that hypothesis. 用这个假设。
Including only a billion Muslims the world over 包括世界上十亿穆斯林
who also don't believe that Jesus died on the cross 谁也不相信耶稣在十字架上死亡
因为古兰经这样说。 because the Koran says so.
With all due respect to Islam, 对伊斯兰教的尊重，
the Koran was written six centuries after Christ. 可兰经是在基督后六个世纪写的。
I prefer my historical sources 我更喜欢我的历史资料
- 更接近实际的事件，是吗？ - 我明白。 - a bit closer to actual events, yeah? - I understand.
但是，但你承认这是可能的。 But-but you concede that it's possible.
Mr. Strobel, I am a medical doctor and a scientist. 史特劳贝先生，我是医生和科学家。
I have seen a great many strange phenomenon 我看到了很多奇怪的现象
- in my lifetime. - Mm-hmm. - 在我一生中嗯，嗯。
但是这个昏厥理论是垃圾。 But the swoon theory is rubbish.
"Rubbish." “垃圾。”
那是一个...一个医学意见？ That's a... is that a... a medical opinion?
Yeah. It is, actually. 是啊。实际上是这样
Um... 嗯...
swoon theorists tend to skim over the fact 沉迷于理论家倾向于忽略这个事实
that Jesus was flogged prior to his crucifixion. 耶稣在被钉十字架前被鞭打了。
你知道罗马鞭打会发生什么？ Do you know what happens in a Roman flogging?
Um, yeah, the person is lashed with a whip. 嗯，是的，这个人用鞭子鞭打。
不，没有绑扎。 No, not lashed.
凶残地被鞭打和冲击。 Scourged and pummeled savagely.
You see, the... the cowhide whip 你看，牛皮鞭
用金属球和骨碎片编织。 is braided with metal balls and bone fragments.
The flesh on Jesus' back would've been shredded. 耶稣背上的肉将被撕碎。
非常肌肉和筋骨 The very muscles and sinews themselves
laid open to exposure. 暴露曝光。
鞭打本身将离开耶稣 The flogging itself would have left Jesus
in critical condition from massive blood loss. 在严重失血的情况下。
这是为什么他在十字架的重量下崩溃了 Which is why he collapsed under the weight of the cross
that the Romans made him carry through town. 罗马人使他穿过城镇。
Mm-hmm. Okay, so is it possible MM-嗯。好的，可以的话
那耶稣的生命被鞭打到十字架？ that Jesus survives being spiked to the cross?
Well, yes, you could survive it, 嗯，是的，你可以生存下去，
but it's child's play 但它是小孩的戏剧
相比之下，在接下来的十字架上。 compared to what comes next in a crucifixion.
缓慢，痛苦的窒息死亡。 Slow, agonizing death by asphyxiation.
跟我来。 Come with me.
The stress on Jesus' chest muscles 对耶稣胸部肌肉的压力
would have locked his lungs into the inhale position. 将他的肺锁在吸气位置。
Right, so in order to let the breath out, 对，所以为了让呼吸出来，
he would have had to shove himself up 他不得不把自己推开
用他尖锐的手腕和脚， using his spiked wrists and feet,
用十字架的木头刮碎他的碎片。 scraping his shredded back against the wood of the cross.
然后再次下垂 And then sagged back down again
为了画下他的呼吸， in order to draw his next breath,
which he would have had to have done 他本来不得不做的
over and over and over again 一遍又一遍
直到彻底耗尽才使它不可能。 until utter exhaustion just made it impossible.
And then, inevitably... 然后，不可避免地...
他死了。呃，在理论上。 He dies. Uh, in... in theory.
但让我们记住， But let's-let's remember,
these soldiers, they're not doctors, okay? 这些士兵，他们不是医生，好吗？
So maybe, uh... 那么也许啊
也许他们把他从十字架上拿走，他们... maybe they took him off the cross and they...
they thought he was dead but, in fact, he wasn't. 他们以为他已经死了，但实际上他没有。
No, of course they weren't medical doctors. 不，当然他们不是医生。
They were professional killers. 他们是专业杀手。
对，他们相当擅长他们的工作。 Right, and they were quite good at their jobs.
They had to be. If a prisoner escaped alive, 他们必须是。如果一名囚犯活着逃脱，
they themselves would be executed. 他们自己会被处决。
史特劳贝尔先生，被钉十字架的耶稣 Mr. Strobel, the crucifixion of Jesus
是古代世界上最出名的事件之一。 is one of the best-attested events in the ancient world.
而且，如果你愿意，最后钉在棺材里 And, if you will, the final nail in the coffin
in the swoon theory is this: 在这个swoon的理论是这样的：
When the soldiers thrust their spear 当士兵推他们的矛
between Jesus' ribs, do you know what came out? 在耶稣的肋骨之间，你知道出来什么了吗？
血和水。 Blood and water.
我们现在知道的 Which we now know
is a description of pericardial effusion 是心包积液的描述
as a result of death by asphyxiation. 由于窒息死亡。
这不是任何人可以伪造的条件。 This is not a condition anyone could fake.
所以，为了回答你的问题， And so, to answer your question,
yes, it is my medical opinion 是的，这是我的医疗意见
耶稣基督在十字架上死了。 that Jesus Christ died on that cross.
Excuse me, Doctor? 对不起，医生？
- I just need your signature. - One moment. - 我只需要你的签名。 - 一会儿
是的，但是但是...我有一个... Yeah, but-but-but... I got a...
I-I have a real problem 我有一个真正的问题
与我在这里谈到的大多数专家。 with most of the experts that I've talked to here.
Which is? 哪个是
大部分是不公正的。 Which is that most of them are not impartial.
如果我要猜猜， And if I'm gonna take a guess,
我也会说你也不是。 I would say that you are not, either.
And you would be correct, sir. 先生，你会是对的。
Though I have learned that most impartial travelers 虽然我了解到最公正的旅客
who undertake this journey 谁承担这个旅程
很少这样。 rarely remain so.
但是，我可以供你参考 However, I can refer you
到我所知道的最公正的来源之一。 to one of the most impartial sources that I know.
Would you trust 你会相信吗
△△美国医学协会杂志？△ △△the Journal of the American Medical Association?△
当然。 Of course.
It is a stellar scientific journal. 这是一部主要的科学杂志。
即使我会承认。 Even I will admit that.
- “关于耶稣的身体死亡”。 -MM-HMM。 - "On the Physical Death of Jesus." -Mm-hmm.
"Clearly, the weight of the medical and historical evidence “显然，医疗和历史证据的重量
“表示耶稣在伤口之前死了 "indicates that Jesus was dead before the wound
“他的身边被施加了。 "to his side was inflicted.
“因此，基于假设的解释 "Accordingly, interpretations based on the assumption
"that Jesus did not die on the cross “耶稣没有在十字架上死
“似乎是不对的 "appear to be at odds
with modern medical knowledge." 具有现代医学知识“。
Doc, I gotta tell you, you're, uh... 我要告诉你，你是呃...
你没有告诉我我希望今天听到的。 you're not telling me what I hoped to hear today.
李？ Lee?
嘿，是我 Hey, it's me.
Everything all right? 一切都好？
Kids okay? 孩子们好吗？
Sweetheart... 爱人...
这是你的父亲 it's your father.
“我的帮助来自耶和华， "My help comes from the Lord,
"the Maker of Heaven and Earth. “天地的创造者”。
"He will not let your foot slip. “他不会让你的脚滑落。
"He who watches over you will not slumber. 看守你的人不会沉睡。
“事实上，看着以色列的人 "Indeed, He who watches over Israel
"will neither slumber nor sleep. “既不打盹也不睡觉。
"The Lord watches over you. “耶和华看顾你。
"The Lord is your shade at your right hand. 耶和华在你右边荫蔽你。
"The sun will not harm you by day, nor the moon by night. “太阳不会一天伤害你，晚上的月亮也不会。
"The Lord will keep you from all harm. 耶和华必使你们免受一切伤害。
"He will watch over your life. “他会看着你的生活。
"The Lord will watch over your coming and going 耶和华必守你的来临
both now and forevermore." 现在和永远。“
In the name of the Father and the Son 以父和子的名义
and the Holy Spirit. 和圣灵。
Strobel Joins Tribune Staff 斯托贝尔正式成为护民官
You Okay? 你好吗
Did you know he had this in his wallet? 你知道他在他的钱包里有这个吗？
是。 Yes.
你知道，你的父亲， You know, your father,
他为你所完成的一切感到自豪。 he was proud of everything you ever accomplished.
Look, he didn't know how to say it very well, 看，他不知道怎么说得很好，
but he loved you, son. 但他爱你，儿子。
He really loved you. 他真的很爱你
好的？ Okay?
the arlington bulletin 阿灵顿公告
Lee's Articles 李的文章
Cop gets immunity in investigation of shooting arrest 警察对逮捕射击的调查获得豁免
Union agent convicted of extortion, tax fraud 工会代理犯有敲诈勒索罪、骗税罪
有80个国家代表... 80 nations were represented...
我要去野营， I'm going camping,
我正在带一个苹果 and I'm bringing an apple...
a banana... 一根香蕉...
和栗鼠。 and a chinchilla.
I'm going camping, and I'm gonna bring an apple... 我要去露营，我要带一个苹果
a banana, uh... 一个香蕉啊
- 他还好吗嗯，嗯。 - ls he okay? - Mm-hmm.
无论你说什么，... Whatever you said and...
- 栗鼠 - 栗子... - A chinchilla. - A chinchilla...
savagely beaten in a prison fight 在监狱中野蛮殴打
- 今天在库克县监狱。 - 还有驴-Sweetie， - at Cook County Jail today. - And a donkey. -Sweetie,
- hold on, hold on, hold on. - Sources inside the prison - 坚持，坚持，坚持。 - 监狱里的来源
say Hicks was targeted by gang members 说希克斯是团伙成员的目标
由于最近的消息 as a result of recent news
identifying him as a police informant. 将他认定为警察信息员。
It is believed that the prison guards 相信监狱看守
did little to protect Hicks, 没有什么保护希克斯，
对于射手来说，命运并不罕见。 a fate not uncommon for cop shooters.
希克斯立即被带到仁慈医院， Hicks was immediately taken to Mercy Hospital,
where he's in serious condition. 他处于严重状况。
Elsewhere in Chicago, the wind is expected to kick up 在芝加哥的其他地方，预计风将掀起
this evening over the lake and continue... 今晚在湖边继续...
How's... how's he doing? 怎么了...他怎么样？
Been in and out. 进出。
Mostly out. 大部分出来
希克斯先生？ Mr. Hicks?
希克斯先生，是李斯特劳尔。 Mr. Hicks, it's Lee Strobel.
Just wanted to say that, um... 只是想说，嗯...
that it's my fault. 这是我的错。
I... 我...
I'm... I missed the... the truth. 我是...我错过了真相。
我很抱歉 I'm-I'm sorry.
我只是... 没看到 I just... didn't see it.
You didn't want to see it. 你不想看到它。
What's that? 那是什么？
你不想看到它。 You didn't want to see it.
△△我已经打了砖墙 △△I've hit a brick Wall.△
I have read through every book you've given me. 我读过你给我的每一本书。
我经历了每一个争论。 I've gone through every argument.
我遵循了每一个领导。 I've followed every lead.
在某个时候，年轻人，你得 At some point, young man, you're going to have
在不确定的山上树你的旗帜， to plant your flag on a mountain of uncertainty,
where not every question is answered. 哪里不是每个问题得到回答。
The human mind will never get to the bottom 人的心灵永远不会落到底部
宇宙中的每一个神秘面纱。 of every mystery in the cosmos.
Believing in God, not believing in God... 相信神，不信神
无论如何，仍然需要一个信念的飞跃。 Either way, still takes a leap of faith.
So you're saying, 所以你说，
即使我们怀疑 even in our disbelief,
that we still take a leap of faith. 我们还是一个信念的飞跃。
More or less. 或多或少。
我好，我已经得出了我自己的结论。 Me, well, I've come to my own conclusion.
You're gonna have to do the same thing for yourself. 你将要为自己做同样的事情。
你在这里做什么？ What are you doing here?
我以为你被放逐了 I thought you were banished.
嘿。 Hey.
有什么事？ What's the matter?
You people and your God. 你们和你的神。
You just... you know, you talk in circles. 你只是...你知道，你在聊天。
You offer... you offer just enough evidence 你提供...你提供足够的证据
but never enough to be conclusive. 但从来没有足够的结论。
然后你填补所有的空白， Then you fill in all the gaps with,
"Oh, well, yeah, you just gotta have faith." “哦，嗯，是的，你必须有信心。”
这是一堆废话。 It's a bunch of nonsense.
You're really irritating, you know that? 你真的很恼火，你知道吗
不要从我开始，肯尼。 Don't start with me, Kenny.
You don't waste a lick of time 你不要浪费时间
bragging to all of us how great a reporter you are. 吹嘘我们所有的记者你是多么伟大。
So, why can't you put up or shut up on this story? 那么，为什么你不能把这个故事放下或闭嘴呢？
你甚至在说什么？ What are you even talking about?
这里是辣椒遇到奶酪，我的朋友。 Here's where the chili meets the cheese, my friend.
我的一个英雄是刘易斯， One of my heroes was C.S. Lewis,
a man who began as a skeptic, much like yourself. 一个开始怀疑的人，很像你自己。
At the end of his journey, you know what he said? 在旅程结束时，你知道他说的话吗？
He said, if Christianity is false, 他说如果基督教是虚假的，
it's of zero importance. 它是零重要性。
But if it's true, 但如果是真的，
在整个宇宙中没有什么更重要的。 there's nothing more important in the entire universe.
那么，你想要你的妻子回来吗？ So, you want your wife back?
嗯，嘿，猜猜是什么，人们想要冰水。 Well, hey, guess what, people in hell want ice water.
Not everybody gets everything they want. 不是每个人都得到他们想要的一切。
Stop blaming me and the Church and God, 停止责怪我和教会和 神，
做你的工作。 and do your job.
Stack up the evidence, follow the facts, 堆叠证据，按照事实，
写故事，赢或输。 and write the story, win or lose.
Good night. 晚安。
父亲请... Father, please...
△△please soften Lee's heart.△ △△请软化李的心脏
△△把新的精神放在他身上 △△Put a new spirit in him.△
Remove from him his heart of stone, 从他身上取出他的石头心，
and give him a heart of flesh. 给他一颗肉的心。
△△真理的唯一途径是事实 △△The only way to truth is through facts.△
△△整个基督教信仰△ △△The entire Christian faith△
△△取决于耶稣的复活 △△hinges on the resurrection of Jesus.△
△△If it didn't happen, it's a house of cards.△ △△如果没有发生，那是一张卡片的房子
△△No, you just have to show△ △△不，你只需要显示△
△△that Jesus died and he was seen afterwards.△ △△耶稣死亡，后来被看见
△△How can we be sure△ △△我们如何确定△
△△这些手稿的可靠性？△ △△of the reliability of those manuscripts?△
△△考古学家已经恢复了△ △△Archaeologists have recovered△
△△5,843希腊新约手稿 △△5,843 Greek New Testament manuscripts.△
△△历史上的其他事物甚至没有接近 △△Nothing else in history even comes close.△
△△Would△ you trust the Journal △△你相信日记
- of the American Medical Association? - Yes. - 美国医学协会？ - 是的
△△耶稣基督在十字架上死了 △△Jesus Christ died on that cross.△
△△You're not telling me what I hoped to hear today.△ △△你不是告诉我今天希望听到的
△△如果是真的？△ △△What if it is true?△
△△你不想知道吗？△ △△Wouldn't you want to know that?△
△△The first recorded account tells us△ △△第一个记录的帐号告诉我们△
△△that he was buried in a tomb.△ △△被埋在坟墓里△
△△空墓是以证据为依据的 △△The empty tomb is based on evidence.△
△△Isn't evidence your trade?△ △△不是你的交易的证据？
△△Faith is the evidence△ △△信是证据△
△△of things we can't actually see.△ △△我们实际看不到的东西
△△任何细心的历史学家都会看到△ △△Any careful historian will see△
△△that the core account is consistent△ △△核心账户一致△
△△even if a... a few of the secondary details△ △△即使有一些二次细节△
△△从不同的角度被告知 △△are told from different perspectives.△
△△500个人同时看到耶稣 △△500 separate people saw Jesus at the same time.△
△△这将是一个更大的奇迹△ △△That would be an even bigger miracle△
△△than the Resurrection itself.△ △△比复活本身△
△△The disciples reported what actually happened.△ △△门徒报了实际发生的事情
△△People with zero motivation to lie.△ △△无动机的人△
△△你真的想知道真相吗？ △△Do you really want to know the truth?△
△△足够证据足够证据？△ △△When is enough evidence enough evidence?△
△△I felt something that is maybe more real△ △△我觉得有些东西可能更真实△
△△than anything I've ever felt in my life.△ △△比我生活中感觉到的任何东西
△△这不是任何人可以假的条件 △△This is not a condition anyone could fake.△
△△仍然需要△a△△信仰的飞跃 △△Still takes△ a △△leap of faith.△
△△But why would he do it?△ △△但他为什么要这样做？
△△真的很简单 △△It's really very simple.△
△△Love.△ △△爱。△
All right, God. 好吧，上帝。
你赢了。 You win.
- Hey- - Hey- - 嘿 - 嘿 -
你还好吗？ Are you okay?
Yeah. 是啊。
是的，我没事 Yeah, I'm fine.
他怎么样 How's he doing?
好。 Good.
All right. Come over here. 好吧。来这里
I want to talk to you for a second. 我想跟你说一会儿
Are you... are you sure you're okay? 你是吗？你确定你还好吗？
所以，我没有，嗯... So, I have not been, um...
在过去的几个月里，你和你完全诚实。 completely honest with you over the last few months.
这是一个非常可怕的方式 That's a really scary way
- to start a conversation. - I... Just-just-just... - 开始对话 - 我只是刚刚...
和我在一起，好吗？ hang with me here, okay?
当你成为基督徒时， When you became a Christian,
- I freaked out. I mean... - Mm-hmm. - 我吓坏了我的意思是... - 嗯，
是的，我很害怕，嗯... Yeah, I was scared, um...
我觉得我需要，嗯... And I felt like that I needed to, um...
拯救你 to save you.
所以我决定出发 And so I decided to set out
to prove this was all a big con. 证明这是一个大骗局。
所以这就是我一直在做的一切。 And so that's what I've been doing all this time.
你的研究？ Your research?
Yeah. I-I mean, look at this. 是啊。我的意思是看这个。
It's... this is all... 这是...这是...
所有的东西 all that stuff.
这就是为什么我一直这么分心。 That's why I've been so distracted.
That's why I went to California. 这就是为什么我去加州。
I just had to prove this whole thing wrong. 我只是要证明这一切都错了。
But I couldn't. 但我不能。
你信仰的证据 The evidence for your faith...
它比我想象的更加压倒性。 it's more overwhelming than I could've ever imagined.
但这不仅仅是证据，好吗？ But it wasn't just the evidence, okay?
It was you. 是你。
你从来没有停止爱我 You never stopped loving me.
你从来没有放弃我 You never gave up on me.
And I think, because of that, 而我认为，因为这样，
上帝也没有。 God didn't, either.
瓦... Wh...
What? 什么？
I mean, I don't... 我的意思是，我不...
I don't think God gave up on you, either, 我不认为上帝也放弃了你，
你在说什么？ what are you saying?
Uh... I can't even fathom 呃...我甚至不知道
我会大声说出这些话。 that I'm gonna say these words out loud.
我相信。 I believe.
哦，嘿，嘿。 Oh, hey, hey.
好的。让我向你展示一些东西。 Okay. Let me show you something.
告诉你... Show you...
“但接受他的人多， "But as many as received Him,
to them He gave the right to become children of God." 他们有权成为上帝的儿女。
MM-嗯。 Mm-hmm.
"To those who believe in His name." “给那些相信他名的人”。
And what does that mean? 这是什么意思？
That... means... 那...意味着...
Believe... 相信...
加收... plus receive...
equals become. 等于成为
好的。嗯... Okay. Um...
So, then, how do I... how do I receive? 那么那么我该怎么办呢？
What do I... What's-what's the protocol for, uh... for that? 什么是什么？什么是协议，呃...为什么？
There's no wrong way or right way. 没有错误的方式或正确的方式。
Just... you. 只有你。
- 你跟上帝说话嗯，嗯。 - You talk to God. - Mm-hmm.
You tell Him your heart. 你告诉他你的心。
Mm-hmm. MM-嗯。
A-And we do that right now? A我们现在这样做？
I mean, shouldn't we go to church or...? 我的意思是，我们不应该去教堂吗？
MM-MM。 MM-MM。 Mm-mm. Mm-mm.
此时此刻。 Right here, right now.
- 这是教会。 - 好的。 - This is church. - Okay.
过来。 Come here.
God, um... 上帝啊
嗯... Mm...
我不知道我在做什么 I have no idea what I'm doing.
But I cannot ignore the evidence. 但我不能忽视这些证据。
我不知道一切。 And I don't know everything.
Uh, I never will know everything. 呃，我永远不会知道一切。
Um, but I... 嗯，但我...
我知道了 I know enough.
我相信 And I believe it.
我很抱歉我的... And I'm sorry for what I've...
what I've put my wife through, 我把我妻子穿过，
um, for what I put my family through, uh... 嗯，为了让我的家人通过，呃...
But I believe You're real, 但我相信你是真实的，
我不知道接下来会发生什么。 and I don't know what comes next.
我不知道... I don't know...
I don't know what it means. 我不知道这是什么意思
I just know that I want... I want that. 我只是知道我想要...我想要的
我想...我想要下一步。 I want... I want whatever's next.
嗯... Um...
So let's do that. 所以让我们这样做
阿门。 Amen.
阿门。
Thank you. 谢谢。
我想我也很疯狂。 I guess I'm crazy, too.
Pitching him today. 今天投他
不要吹它。 Don't blow it.
Watch this. 看这个。
我为你准备了一个音乐会。 I got a pitch for you.
那么那没有持续很久。 Well, that didn't last long.
一块垃圾。 Piece of junk.
你听说过希克斯？ You hear about Hicks?
Released from the hospital. 从医院发布。
No longer a resident of Crook County Jail. 不再是克鲁克县监狱的居民。
我做了那是个好消息 I did. That's great news.
Mm. MM。
来吧，这是一个笑话，对吧？ Come on, this is a joke, right?
No. No, it's not. 不，不是。
I-I-I-I want to do I-I-I我想做
第一人称特色故事，好吗？ a first-person feature story, okay?
An odyssey. 奥德赛
Uh, one man's journey from skepticism to faith. 呃，一个人从怀疑到信仰的旅途。
忘记了，李。 Forget it, Lee.
我的意思是... I mean...
good for you, I guess, but... 对你好，我猜，但...
我们不能发布这样的东西。 we can't publish something like this.
We'd lose all credibility. So would you. 我们会失去所有的信誉。你会吗
I really wish that you would reconsider. 我真的希望你会重新考虑。
坚持你所知道的，李。现在去吧 Stick to what you know, Lee. Go on, now.
Get out of here. 离开这里。
直到你至少听到我的话。 Not until you've at least heard me out.
- 嗨，爸爸。 - 嘿，你。你好吗？ - Hi, Daddy. - Hey, you. How are you?
Good. 好。
- 你好 - 你好 - Hi. - Hi.
So? 怎么样？
Dubois said no. 杜博伊斯说不。
- 他做了吗 - 是啊 - He did? - Yeah.
- 不好了。对不起， - 我做的！我做的！ - Oh, no. Sorry, hon. - I did it! I did it!
你做了什么 What did you did?
I can finally reach the faucet. 我终于可以到达水龙头了。
- Oh, my Lord. - I'm tall enough now. - 哦，我的上帝。 - 我现在足够高了
Look at you! You're a big girl now. 看着你！你现在是一个大女孩
哦，不，你需要停止。这意味着你正在成长。 Oh, no, you need to stop that. That means you're growing up.
你不再是我们的小女孩了 You're not our little girl anymore.
It's not that big of a deal, Daddy. 爸爸不是那么大的交易。
I think it's a big deal. 我认为这是一件大事。
嘿，怎么了一本书？ Hey, how 'bout a book?
什么？ A What?
Instead of an article, how 'bout a book? 不是一篇文章，而是一本书怎么样？
你觉得怎么样？ What do you think about that?
- Yeah! Definitely! - Yeah? - 是啊！非也！ - 是啊
Lee Strobel的 耶稣基督的案件 成为国际畅销书， 第一系列，现在有超过1400万份在全球发行
李于1987年离开新闻界成为一位牧师在 Willow Creek 社区教会， 就是Leslie第一次把他作为一个怀疑论者的同一地方
自从出版了 耶稣案件 ， Lee又出版了超过20本书， 并且到世界各地分享他的信仰见证
看到她父亲的改变，在Lee受洗后六个月，小Alison也成为基督徒。 今天她是六本小说的作者，引领人们归向上帝。
Kyle 长大后得到神学博士学位，现在是神学院教授 写了许多基督教书籍
他给他儿子取名随他父姓
Lee 和 Leslie 现居德州的休斯敦市 在休斯顿浸会大学教授基督教思想 并在林地教会教牧
♪ 'Cause I have seen ♪ ♪因为我看过♪
♪天堂的门对我开放♪ ♪ Heaven's door is open to me ♪
♪ And I have shook to the bones ♪ ♪我摇了摇头♪
♪我看到你的脸♪ ♪ And I've seen your face ♪
♪当我躺在地板上♪ ♪ As I lay on the floor ♪
♪ And I have cried ♪ ♪我哭了♪
♪ And I have sought ♪ ♪我寻求♪
♪ Like a beggar in my soul ♪ ♪像我的灵魂乞丐♪
♪ Like a beggar in the world ♪ ♪像世界乞丐♪
♪ Just to find you, Lord ♪ ♪只是找到你，喔♪
♪原因，主，我相信♪ ♪ 'Cause, Lord, I believe ♪
♪帮我相信♪ ♪ Help me believe ♪
♪主啊，可以看♪ ♪ Lord, I can see ♪
♪ But I still can't see clearly ♪ ♪但是我还是看不清楚♪
♪ Lord, I believe ♪ ♪主啊，我相信♪
♪请帮我相信♪ ♪ Would you help me believe ♪
♪Cecause我想要这么糟♪ ♪ 'Cause I want it so bad ♪
♪ 'Cause I want it so bad... ♪ ♪Cecause我想要这么糟糕♪
♪ 'Cause I want it so bad ♪ ♪Cecause我想要这么糟♪
♪像我的灵魂乞丐♪ ♪ Like a beggar in my soul ♪
♪像世界乞丐♪ ♪ Like a beggar in the world ♪
♪只是找到你，喔♪ ♪ Just to find you, Lord ♪
♪原因，主，我相信♪ ♪ 'Cause, Lord, I believe ♪
♪ Help me believe ♪ ♪帮我相信♪
♪主啊，可以看♪ ♪ Lord, I can see ♪
♪ But I still can't see clearly ♪ ♪但是我还是看不清楚♪
♪ Lord, I believe ♪ ♪主啊，我相信♪
♪请帮我相信♪ ♪ Would you help me believe ♪
♪Cecause我想要这么糟♪ ♪ 'Cause I want it so bad ♪
♪ Yeah, ah ♪ ♪是啊，♪
♪ Oh, oh ♪ ♪哦，哦♪
♪是啊，♪ ♪ Yeah, ah ♪
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh ♪ ♪哦，哦，哦，哦♪
♪是啊，♪ ♪ Yeah, ah ♪
♪哦，哦♪ ♪ Oh, oh ♪
♪ 'Cause I want it so bad ♪ ♪Cecause我想要这么糟♪
♪ 'Cause I want it so bad... ♪ ♪Cecause我想要这么糟糕♪
♪ 'Cause I want it so bad ♪ ♪Cecause我想要这么糟♪
♪ Like a beggar in my soul ♪ ♪像我的灵魂乞丐♪
♪ Like a beggar in the world ♪ ♪像世界乞丐♪
♪只是找到你，主啊。 ♪ ♪ Just to find you, Lord. ♪